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videobruce
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 Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: General Broadband Cellular questions |
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1. Do you need a 'card' and a 'host' device for non Laptop use as in a home network?
2. Isn't there a all in one device similar to a DSL modem/router that provides the incomming service and the outgoing ports & wireless hookups?
3. What is the general accepted term for this service? I have seen WISP, EVDO & 2G uses.
4. Do all providers charge for each additional card or access hardware above your first access device? IOW's with DSL or cable and a home Network, you pay for the service through a modem or a modem/router. You can have as many computers hooked up as you want without paying for each additional client.
5. Are they any PCI cards (not PCMICA cards)?
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Alex
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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start with these:
What is EVDO? -- http://www.EVDOinfo.com/what
Easy EVDO by 3Gstore -- http://www.EVDOinfo.com/easy
and for the record... WISP is not "cellular broadband", its more like "fixed wireless"... EVDO is cellular broadband, not WISP. |
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videobruce
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Confused about WISP. These EVDO services are not WISP??  |
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Alex
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, and No.
By definition, WISP is a "Wireless Internet Service Provider", and while EVDO service from a carrier like Sprint/Verizon/Alltel does provide internet access wirelessly, they do it using cellular towers, allowing its users to have internet access while moving from place to place.
WISP is typically a "fixed wireless" solution that provides coverage only to a specific area. here's a link to wikipedia definition of WISP
yes, they are similar, but no, I don't believe that EVDO should not be categorized as a WISP. |
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videobruce
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Then WISP is WiFi, correct? Then EVDO is the correct term for these services which includes ALL carriers?? Where does 2G and or 3G that I have seen listed fit in? Is the current EVDO (or whatever it is called) 3g? Do those terms just refer to cellular telephone?
Getting back to my questions, those links didn't really answer them. |
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Alex
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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| videobruce wrote: | Then WISP is WiFi, correct? Then EVDO is the correct term for these services which includes ALL carriers?? Where does 2G and or 3G that I have seen listed fit in? Is the current EXDO (or whatever it is called) 3g? Do those terms just refer to cellular telephone?
Getting back to my questions, those links didn't really answer them. |
i think that your pre-conceived ideas are blocking absorption.
yes, WISP is mostly WiFi. almost always.
No, EVDO is NOT all carriers. EVDO is specific to CDMA carriers like Sprint/Verizon/Alltel. AT&T/T-Mobile are examples that are not EVDO.
2G and 3G just refer to what "generation" of wireless evolution the service existed as. EVDO is 3rd generation of its kind.
Those articles most do certainly do explain how EVDO works. but i'll give you direct answers anyway.
1. Yes, you need something to receive cellular signal. Most popular choice today comes in form of a USB modem like Sprint Compass 597. To provide internet service to one computer, the USB modem would be all thats needed. no other 'host'.
2. Yes, there are all-in-one devices sold with embedded EVDO modems, most are commercial applications. For most people, embedded EVDO of any kind is a bad idea. Read this for more about embedded EVDO.
The more common way to distribute connectivity from one EVDO modem to many computers is using a consumer-oriented cellular router like these from Cradlepoint.
3. "BroadBand Cellular" or "Cellular Internet" or "Mobile BroadBand" are examples of generalizations. EVDO is not a generalization, its a specific technology that falls under the generalization of BroadBand Cellular. See this wikipedia link for more on EVDO
4. Yes, the providers would much prefer to be collecting a monthly fee per computer, but those who educate themselves on these forums, know to use cellular routers instead.
5. No, there are not EVDO PCI cards. There are PCMCIA, ExpressCard, USB modem, and various flavors of embedded devices. Not ever seen a PCI card with EVDO on it.
Hundreds (it not thousands) have educated themselves as you are doing now, by using these forums and those links i gave earlier. you are welcome to continue the process.
however, my biased opinion is that you benefit from the experience of the EVDO experts at http://3gstore.com and give them a call on monday, detailing your situation and objectives. if its at all possible, we can help make it happen for you. |
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videobruce
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| Quote: | | i think that your pre-conceived ideas are blocking absorption. |
Nothing "pre conceived" here since I only found out about the yesterday. I'm trying to sift through alot of very vauge and confusing data starting out the the rediculus, misleading, inaccrurite and plan stupid term EVDO! 
Everything having to do with electronics can be 'Evolutionary". 
Thanks for the replys anyway. Are you the only one here that responds to these threads??
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Alex
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| videobruce wrote: | | Are you the only one here that responds to these threads?? |
you posted into a category that most do not "watch"
EVDOforums.com Forum Index -> EVDOinfo.com
i'm likely to be the only one who will watch/answer that, yes. |
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videobruce
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It seemed to be the logical choice as all the others were specific.
From some of that reading I gather each carrier uses their own 'hardware'? I do understand using a router solves the problem for a home network, but for a Laptop you travel with, was the reason for the question about paying for an additional connection (whatever it is called).
Can't believe each service has their own cards. 
For DSL and cable internet access it doesn't matter. Why should it here? Real good way to drive away potential customers.
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Peterfield
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| videobruce wrote: | | Quote: | | i think that your pre-conceived ideas are blocking absorption. |
Nothing "pre conceived" here since I only found out about the yesterday. I'm trying to shift through alot of very vauge and confusing data starting out the the rediculus, misleading, inaccrurite and plan stupid term EVDO!
Everything having to do with electronics can be 'Evolutionary".
Thanks for the replys anyway. Are you the only one here that responds to these threads?? |
What ISP do you use now to post to this forum? I had satellite and switched to Verizon Wireless and it works fine. Rather than be concerned about acronyms, why not test drive either Sprint or Verizon wireless and see what works for you and post your questions based on your experiences? What works for me might not work for you. Have you checked to see if servive is offered in your area yet? That would be a good place to start. In my case, I can't get cable or DSL and satellite was OK but the latency was tough to deal with. When my sat modem fried, I test drove VZW and is much better than satellite due to low latency. |
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videobruce
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| Quote: | | why not test drive either Sprint or Verizon wireless and see what works for you |
I research first. It took me over 3 years before I got my 1st HDTV.
I was just remotely thinking about this. The real reason is a friend that lives in East Famrers Bumf**k (literally) that only has dial-up and wants to switch.
To answer your question; Verizon DSL. I'm 1.25 miles from the CO.
Nice to actually live in a city. 
For him, both carriers are available, but Verizon seems to have much better voice cellular coverage. How that relates to this, I'm not sure. I do see this 5GB limit for Verizon (with additional changes over) with none for Sprint. |
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