Other abusers Don't Pay Their Fair Share

jackrodgers · EVDO Addict Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 1131

Users who consume a lot of bandwidth are getting negative attention.

Those who aren't getting much attention are the businesses taking advantage of the internet and its free bandwidth to sell products, show ads and movies, etc. (Spammers are another problem.)

Apple and other companies are taking advantage of the free internet to sell DVDs and CDs online bypassing the need to hire staff to locate and package the DVDs and CDs.

Online movie sales and rentals are devastating the movie theatres and another industry may fall victim to computers, just as the type setting industry 20 years ago was crushed by amateur typesetters with 200 fonts (very few paid for) and a laser printer.

Perhaps instead of blaming the users, the sellers should pay for the expansion of the internet and its services? Those who get bumped for exceeding 5 Gigs might enjoy seeing a company pay extra for selling 50,000 GIGS of data online? And the advertisers such as Google who may each transmit Gigs of Gigs of ads FOR FREE!

ebiz · Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject:

Touché, Jack. Spirit is right, but the application is a bitch legally. It's like the airlines trying to sue McDonald's for making consumers fatter, thereby costing the airlines more in fuel charges.

Suites have been successful by governments against the tobacco companies because of gov't rising medical costs on very similar premis, but the cost of mounting such suites is staggering.

Besides, the regulatory implications for the Internet would have more negative than positive effects.

In the end, it's the consumer who needs to discipline for his own consumption - whether for cigarettes, Big Macs or data volume.
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dan1101 · EVDO User Joined: 17 May 2007 Posts: 64

In the long run Internet usage really needs to be unlimited. Isn't it much more efficient to download a movie than it is to spend fuel to transport DVDs? Whatever your need for large amounts of bandwidth, who's to say it's not legitimate?

ebiz · Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:22 am Post subject:

dan1101 · EVDO User Joined: 17 May 2007 Posts: 64

The physical DVD still had to be made, and all those DVDs mailed back and forth do collectively make a difference in fuel consumption.

In this "green" world of today, I think everything that can be electronic should be electronic.

operknockity · Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject:

larrysano · EVDO Fledgling Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 17

ebiz · Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject:

larrysano · EVDO Fledgling Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 17

ebiz · Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:42 am Post subject:

Very informative chart, Larry. Thank you. Never worked for a telco. My travels take me to South America, the Middle East and SE Asia mostly. Lower bandwidth and tiers of service seem the norm there. Only rates I pay in Japan and Europe are the daily rates when on a 3 or 4 hour layover at the airport.

Two or three levels of service might be a good solution here too. Particularly for people without alternative providers like you. Perhaps Sprint will offer it in the next few months.
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waynefoutz · EVDO Junkie Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 201

I've logged on to many public hotspots that block P2P software, why can't Sprint? I'm sick of this "5 gigs is plenty of data" argument. No, it isn't, unless you are doing NOTHING but 1994 style static web pages. I've seen some of these kids' myspace pages weigh in at over 70 megs. Why not crack down on the real abusers who are file sharing movies and such?
I just don't understand the logic of investing in a mobile BROADBAND network then telling me I'm abusing the network when I use BROADBAND applications, such as streaming a yahoo news video. Why invest in the speedy network if it was only intended to be used for static web pages and email? Why not just stick with 1xrtt? Seriously, is my life any better because craigslist loaded up in one second as opposed to three? I think not.

titan307 · EVDO Newbie Joined: 17 Jun 2008 Posts: 2

i am one of those people who might someitmes use a lot of bandwidth. depending on how my buisness does each month. i do photography. So i upload my images to pro labs. when i signed up this week i thought i seen a choice of plans, 40Mb month for 39.99 or unlimited for 59.99.

i signed up for unlimited because of what i do and some months i might use 1Gb a month and others i might use 50 Gb but i signed unlimited and i pay more.

If they know who is using all the bandwidth for illegal purposes such as copyright infringements like downloading music or any other illegal file sharing then send them one and only one notice to stop or shut them down, slow them down to dial up speeds or raise the heck out of the price simply because what they are doing is illegal in the first place.

Dont limit the legitimate person for a few bad apples, go after spammers who i bet the really eat up some space, they can find out where it comes from if the want, go after the illegal file sharing.