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firedude EVDO Junkie
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 435
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: Holy Smokes! Where's my racing harness!? |
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Man I just finished setting up my MRB1000. Holy rockets to the moon! LOL!! Man it smokes! Ya need a 3 point racing harness to stay in your chair!
My neighbor who works here was sharing the 1x with me (sat before that) and he came running out of his RV door yelling @#$%^&*% this thing is #$%#@! is FAST. I was laughing so hard I couldn't breath. He hadn't experienced the Sprint evdo yet as he was working of my KR1 and 1x speeds lol.
Haven't had time yet to conduct a transmit distance test. May have to wait until tomorrow, but on the short term distance it smokes the old Linksys WRT545G I pumped up. Amazing. The old faithful pumped up hotrod would cover the whole campground. The MRB1000 on the short distance is showing roughly a 10%+ increase in signal over the highly pumped up Linksys (running about 190 ma)! I imagine my distance tests will be just as enjoyable! We'll see later maybe this evening or tomorrow as time permits and I'll report back in this thread.
One thing for sure this mobile broadband router rocks!! I haven't had time to explore the infamous SGNL function yet or all the other cool features, but will report on those as well as I go.
One question I had asked in another thread was had anyone seen a notifiable difference in speed running the MBR1000 wireless mode versus a LAN connection. I can answer that now and boy howdy I see a very noticeable speed increase in the wireless mode! A wee bit less than in the LAN mode (wireless disabled).
Setup? I was a bit worried as I am on a diet AND quit smoking 3 days ago LOL! It was a breeze! So far. The wife and both dogs are still alive and well. I'll report more in this thread as I go.
I do have to thank the folks at the 3G Store for all their help, advice and putting up with all the questions, especially Alex! 2 winning combos here folks, 3G and the MRB1000 (Cradle Point)! Well not to mention all the members and posts here as well!!
Bottom line this router smokes (and so does 3G) and is top of the line in my book!!
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firedude EVDO Junkie
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Not quite sure how or why, but my dBm (signal) went from -59 to -40dBm running in the wireless mode on the 1000 versus running through the laptop. doesn't make sense, but that's what it is. ! Also shown by my short distance tests in transmit signal strength.
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OK I know have it situated on my shelf where I want it. You can see the signal quality and virtually NO noise! Click the pic for full sized view.
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firedude EVDO Junkie
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Looked all through the help section and found nothing on the SGNL button or function/purpose. Any help here folks? |
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firedude EVDO Junkie
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Is there a benefit from "N" without and active "N" device?
After some short distance (400'-500') I can say this thing is as fast and actually faster and a better signal than my pumped up old Linksys access point with the transmit cranked up all the way to 180. Based on that and this is MRB1000 "stock" settings I'd have to say you do benefit because it is transmitting in the mixed mode (B, G and N). I can't really see how it performs better than a device that has been tweaked almost max with the 3rd party firmware and yet this out performs it. The obvious though it is superior to anything I've seen yet. I'll keep reporting issues (if any) and tests here as I go. So far I am extremely impressed.
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Alex Site Admin
Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 2174 Location: Dallas, TX
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| firedude wrote: | | Looked all through the help section and found nothing on the SGNL button or function/purpose. Any help here folks? |
didn't you get our 3gstore tipsheet with your router?
you put your left foot in, you put your left foot out. |
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firedude EVDO Junkie
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Alex wrote: | | firedude wrote: | | Looked all through the help section and found nothing on the SGNL button or function/purpose. Any help here folks? |
didn't you get our 3gstore tipsheet with your router?
you put your left foot in, you put your left foot out. |
LMAO!! I've been having so much fun with this thing , you mean I'm supposed to look at all that other stuff??
ahhhhhhh there it is. Dave the men in black are at my door LOL! |
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firedude EVDO Junkie
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Well I can truthfully say I'm not impressed with the SGNL feature. It's OK, but what would be better is a signal interface somewhere in the admin console. I want to be on line , not off line dancing around my living room! I can see why it's nicknamed a dance routine lol. A much needed thing for a wish list with Cradle Point. I can basically do the same and actually better by opening my Broadcom utility and looking at the link status of the connection with all the readings, not just some lights lit up. Either way this small detail does not take away from the quality and performance of this outstanding unit. It's going to take me a few days to explore all the features, but so far I'm very impressed.
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Alex Site Admin
Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 2174 Location: Dallas, TX
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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very few things disappoint me about the MBR1000... the "Signal Strength Dance Routine" tops the list, because the end result gets you no useful RSSI... just a series of 1-4 lights.
if someone reading this thread is still thinking about Verizon EVDO (not an endorsement) get the UM150 and it shows you the signal strength it receives all the time, not just after a dance. |
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JoeCHecht EVDO Junkie
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| firedude wrote: | Is there a benefit from "N" without and active "N" device?
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I do not think so. N will get your faster speeds much increased range, and much better signal, however, I am pretty darn sure you need a "N" device to take advantage of it. |
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JoeCHecht EVDO Junkie
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Alex wrote: | very few things disappoint me about the
MBR1000... |
My big wish is that the MBR-1000 had gigibit LAN ports. Its kind crazy to put 10/100 wired ports on a wireless router, where the wireless goes faster than the wired ports.
10/100/1000 wired ports would really sell me. I have the feeling they will add this, and I will end up having to buy 2 more.
I totally agree with you. I am very impressed with the MBR-1000.
Added bonus, they do a real good BGN mixed mode. I was really worried that "N" mode would be unusable with our laptops (the internal ABGN intel cards they have do not want to connect to many routers in "N" mode)
Further, many routers do not do BGN mixed mode very well. Our Linksys router will only work for us in "N" mode, as it has a real problem with mixed mode, meaning we have to run a second router just to support our b/g devices.
The MRB-1000 has no problem running in mixed mode, and all of our b/g/n devices are very happy.
The MRB-1000 also connects at a higher speed than with the Linksys.
Needless to say, the Linksys is going to get replaced with a MBR-1000.
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skj9063 EVDO Fledgling
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 25
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Tony,
I think you're misinterpreting the meaning of the SGNL button and LEDs. As Alex said, it shows the Modem signal strength while it is in that mode, not the signal strength back to your PC.
The signal strength back to your PC is shown in the Admin -> Wireless page.
I believe that the Modem Info page is a better way to see modem signal strength than the LEDs. That would be for people who are looking for the best modem signal strength location in their house and don't want to keep a browser open at all times. I have scary mental images of someone on top of a ladder trying to look at the LEDs as he searches for the best signal...
Love your posts, by the way. People in the office look at me funny when I burst out laughing in the middle of the day.
Regards,
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Jim_in_VA EVDO Junkie
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 479 Location: On the Chesapeake Bay, Virginia
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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You won't get the speeds without a N compatible device but you will get the range. My N router connected to a CTR350 easily doubled the range. Even with a N compatible device, and using EVDO, you won't get the full potential speed wise. But distance? Yes. _________________ evdo-tips.com |
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firedude EVDO Junkie
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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skj9063
Steve I see what you mean. However those readings are very close (actually better) to what the connection software read whe n the U727 was connected straight to the pc so the graphic I posted above actually shows a better quality signal than before hooked to the pc and via the connection software? Maybe that is what's throwing me lol. I would think it would be less of a reading back to the pc than what the actual modem signal is? Phewww I think I confused myself lol! Where's my coffee!?
On edit.. OK Steve got it. Link status versus modem signal strength...right?
Jim...Thank you as you said perfectly what I was trying to say above. Good thing I have some interpreters around here lol!!
Yeah yeah Alex I looked at the notes and read the CD. I didn't want to get caught again LOL! Man I love the smell of Cradle Point in the morning LMAO! OOPS wrong movie!  |
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JoeCHecht EVDO Junkie
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| firedude wrote: | skj9063
Steve I see what you mean. However those readings are very close (actually better) to what the connection software read whe n the U727 was connected straight to the pc so the graphic I posted above actually shows a better quality signal than before hooked to the pc and via the connection software? Maybe that is what's throwing me lol. I would think it would be less of a reading back to the pc than what the actual modem signal is? Phewww I think I confused myself lol! Where's my coffee!?
On edit.. OK Steve got it. Link status versus modem signal strength...right?
Jim...Thank you as you said perfectly what I was trying to say above. Good thing I have some interpreters around here lol!!
Yeah yeah Alex I looked at the notes and read the CD. I didn't want to get caught again LOL! Man I love the smell of Cradle Point in the morning LMAO! OOPS wrong movie!  |
I moved my 727 away from the router using a monstercable USB extender, thinking it cant be good to have it so close to the router's antennas after observing a slightly better signal from the side port than from the back. Then again, its is doubfull, but it might improve it.
CradlePoint + Starbucks makes for a very nice blend
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JoeCHecht EVDO Junkie
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:17 am Post subject: |
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| Jim_in_VA wrote: | | You won't get the speeds without a N compatible device but you will get the range. My N router connected to a CTR350 easily doubled the range. Even with a N compatible device, and using EVDO, you won't get the full potential speed wise. But distance? Yes. |
If this is true, it sure would be great, however, every technical paper I have read states that this is absolutely not the case. To get the benefit of either the speed or range that "N" offers, you must be running a N device.
I would sure entertain the reading of additional papers if you could site an authoritive source, and as always, I will happily stand corrected if I am found to be inaccurate.
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