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Walter EVDO Junkie
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 307
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, I didn't realize you had a WiFi adapter built into the machine. Yes, that's the most likely culprit then. You need to make sure it's disabled: preferably for Windows not to even know of it's existence. If that's not possible, look into whether you can manually set the IP address of it and make sure it's *not* set to 192.168.0.1 _________________ Reach, Connect, Celebrate, Grow, Serve. |
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Markgc EVDO Heavy User
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 107
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:12 am Post subject: |
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The plot thickens - there is a switch on the laptop that is supposed to enable the wifi connection - it even has a pretty blue light on the switch but I guess the software is still seeing the card and the switch just enables the rf circuitry.
What should ip address should I set the wifi card to.
Something that came to mind and which didn't mean much at the time was when I was installing the evdo software at one stage it asks you to insert the LAN card. I thought that it was referring to the evdo card, so at that stage I plugged in the evdo card. I then got an error message saying somethng about the LAN card not detected. It then asked for the evdo card to be installed. The software found the evdo card and continued and the installation completed sucessfully. I hadn't given that much thought but it might be an indication of some problem with the LAN card.
I will try changing the wifi ip address and see what happens from there
Thanks for sticking with this
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Markgc EVDO Heavy User
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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I am have done the full-up setup yet but when I looked at the wirelss TCP setup on the laptop the ip was set manually to
192.168.0.1
I set it automatic. Now when I ping from the host to the client with all auto settings on both machines I do get a reply
It says
Reply from 192.168.1.1 Destination net unreachable
Reply from 192.168.1.1 Destination net unreachable
Reply from 192.168.1.1 Destination net unreachable
Reply from 192.168.1.1 Destination net unreachable
4 packets sent, 4 packets received
I am still using the Linksys right now since I need the file sharing going. Should I try the switch instead.
At least the LAN cards are talking by the sound of it. Not sure why the destination net is unreachable.
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Walter EVDO Junkie
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Ok, now you've got me a bit confused. Let me see if I understand. You're using your laptop as the host. It has the EVDO card, a wireless WiFi built-in, and a wired Ethernet card (or built-in). The wireless network adapter on your laptop *was* set to 192.168.0.1 OK, this explains why you could not get ICS to work on your wired connection through the switch. You have now set the wireless adpater to automatic, so now its IP setting should be via DHCP request. Then you tried to ping from your host to your client but you are using your Linksys router again. I assume your client IP was something like 192.168.1.2 (or the like). Well, your client is on a different subnet than your host (your host is on the .0 subnet, but your client is on the .1 subnet). So yes, you can't ping it. This is what your router is telling your host (the router is 192.168.1.1). At this point, yes, it's time to put the switch back in instead of the router. You may need to re-run the Network Setup Wizard on each machine again as well. _________________ Reach, Connect, Celebrate, Grow, Serve. |
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Markgc EVDO Heavy User
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Yes you had my configuraton correct.
Today I went back to the Switch and mnaually configured both the xp host and xp client witht the IP settings that you gave me earlier.
I can now ping from the xp client to the xp host. I can ping from the 98 client to the xp host too. I still don't see any internet connection on the xp client - is there any special setup on the IE xp client that I should do - it is
set to never dial a connection right now. Are there any LAN properties to set up.
Anything special that I should do for the xp host. On the xp host I have internet connection sharing enabled for the Verizon EVDO card rather than the LAN connection. I think that this is right. I have tried both and neither works.
I need file sharing more than ICS right now. Any idea what it will take to make the 98 machine see the 2 other xp machines. The 98 machine only sees the xp machines with the Linksys - which is why I keep defaulting back to it. The xp machines see each other with the switch but the 98 machine sees Workgroup but it is the only machine there. When I go back to the Linksys I get all 3 back on the network
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Markgc EVDO Heavy User
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Hey I am getting better at this. I went into the 98 network settings and manually configured the ip address to be
IP addrss 192.168.0.200
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
and now I can see all 3 machines on the network and file share -
now to get that dratted ICS to work
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Walter EVDO Junkie
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, if nothing else, you're getting good at setting up networks in Windows.
As to some of your other questions: Yes, internet sharing for the EVDO card rather than the LAN connection. In the Host Network Connections Window the EVDO card should be shown as Connected (if it is), Shared, and Firewalled (again if it is) while the Local Area Connection should show as Connected and Firewalled (again if you have the Windows firewall on).
As to not seeing any Internet Connection on the XP client, do you mean there is no icon in the connection window? If so, this does not necessarily mean you don't have the connection. Of my 3 clients, only two show the connection: but all 3 work. Did you try to access a web page on your client to see if it worked?
Also, on the Host Network Connection Wondow you need to make sure that under the EVDO National Access Dial-up icon/Properties/Advanced you have checked all three boxes under the Internet Connection Sharing section. Most importantly, the "Establish a dial-up connection whenever a computer a computer on my network attempts to connect to the Internet" needs to be checked.
And you still may need to delete the Ethernet card driver and re-establish the sharing as I posted earlier. _________________ Reach, Connect, Celebrate, Grow, Serve. |
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urrl78 EVDO User
Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 81
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:24 am Post subject: |
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I have XP Pro on my Sony T250 laptop. A friend has XP home on her HP laptop. Using my Powerbook 17" as a base station with the PC5220 EVDO card plugged into it, my friend's laptop links to the Powerbook and she is on the net no problem while my laptop gives no joy. I have pulled my hair out trying to get XP Pro to work and have given up. Wierdly enough there was one time earlier when my laptop did work before I formatted and re-installed XP Pro. You are right, it shouldnt be this complicated. _________________ Sony T250 1.2 Ghz & 17" Powerbook 1.5 Ghz |
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Pets0undz EVDO Newbie
Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Posts: 6
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:12 pm Post subject: XP as AP? |
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You're using the Powerbook as an 802.11 access point?
Do I need a dedicated router device to share my EVDO service with Wi-Fi clients? Or is XP smart enough to act as a local access point and use the EVDO for the WAN connection? |
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Walter EVDO Junkie
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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No, you can use XP as a local access point and the EVDO modem for the WAN connection. You don't have to use a router (though an EVDO router would be a cleaner setup). I set up my neighbor just like this. He has his EVDO modem plugged into an older notebook computer and has a Netgear USB 802.11g wireless dongle plugged in. He then has a desktop computer connected (via wired Ethernet) to a Netgear wireless router with DHCP turned off, so the router just acts as a wireless access point. A bit of an unusual setup, but there are some reasons (that I won't go into) why I set it up this way.
Anyway, it does indeed work. Although the DHCP server function on the laptop doesn't always seem to work so I ended up setting his desktop IP address manually. _________________ Reach, Connect, Celebrate, Grow, Serve. |
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Markgc EVDO Heavy User
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Yes the EVDO shows connected and shared and the host LAN shows connected. The firewalling is being done by ZoneAlarm.
The 3 boxes weren't checked on the the EVDO National Access Dial-up Icon/Properties/Advanced . They are now.
I am trying to connect IE with the client. I am not looking at any icons. I don't think that they are displayed. I find the icons generally small and confusing.
Do I need to set up some sort of dial-up configuration on the client pc. I am not sure that it has IE set right. It still won't see the internet. At least the error message pos up quickly - not waiting for a timeout
What makes IE use the LAN connection and what makes that LAN connection pop out onto the EVDO card. It still won't see the internet. |
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Markgc EVDO Heavy User
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Here might be something When I look at the Kyocera Properties. Advanced and see the 3 boxes checked. The writing under the first box shows the Home Networking Connection as
Wireless Network Connection
There is no other choice. Maybe this occured when I installed the Verizon software and it couldn't find a LAN card. |
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Markgc EVDO Heavy User
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Sorry about the delay but I was away in the UK last week.
I suppose that I should now try removing and reinstalling the LAN drivers as you suggested earlier and then try removing and reinstalling the Verizon software and see if it sees the LAN card this time.
Mark |
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