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ebiz
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updating PRLs in easier with SCM1.03.0020.0. You no longer need to enter the MSL lock code. Now you just download the latest PRL from http://corolada.com/prl (latest is 60611), disconnect (but leave the data card in), mouse over the face of SCM, hit ##PRL, then locate the downloaded PRL file in the window. No fuss. No hassle. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone using SCM1.03.0020.0 been able to use the Locations services? Because of my indoor location, I cannot receive any satellites. SCM seems to want a GPS fix rather than just using Sprint antenna triangulation to establish my location. As a result, the location service for banks, etc, won't work.

Are the rest of you SCM1.03.0020.0 users experiencing the same thing?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ebiz wrote:
Has anyone using SCM1.03.0020.0 been able to use the Locations services? Because of my indoor location, I cannot receive any satellites. SCM seems to want a GPS fix rather than just using Sprint antenna triangulation to establish my location. As a result, the location service for banks, etc, won't work.

Are the rest of you SCM1.03.0020.0 users experiencing the same thing?


Yes, I am seeing the same problem, I have not tryed it outside to confirm that this feature in the software is functional.

Tim
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using this on a Vista 32-bit laptop and a Vista x64 desktop.

Overall I think it's a step in the right direction, although I'll probably never use it to manage WiFi.

One critical feature that's now missing is the "Auto connect when ready" check that used to be in the U720 software.

Also, sometimes the software isn't in sync with the operating system when dialing the 3G connection. So, you get the "connection terminated" message and have to repeatedly click Connect.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

muzicman82 wrote:
...One critical feature that's now missing is the "Auto connect when ready" check that used to be in the U720 software.
Change to NDIS mode and it causes it to connect atomatically as soon as you insert the card or boot up with the card inserted. You don't even need to open the SCM application. Just disconnect and check the button at Tools>Settings>Mobile>Connection Type>NDIS. Also uncheck the box at Tools>Settings>Client>Automatically run this application on machine startup.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I am aware of NDIS mode... however I have some programs that that causes problems with configuration wise.. VMware being one of them.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new SCM appears to be completely incompatible with VMWare at the host layer. No success on either XP or Vista as the host with VMWare installed. I've gone back to the old SCM. Anyone gettin SCM 1.x to work with VMWare installed?
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The new SCM appears to be completely incompatible with VMWare at the host layer. No success on either XP or Vista as the host with VMWare installed. I've gone back to the old SCM. Anyone gettin SCM 1.x to work with VMWare installed?



What is VMWARE?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Sprint U727 and a Vista desktop. Tried installing and like others it left the old CM still installed. The connection would just hang for minutes to download a page. I tried doing it again but this time uninstalling the old CM: same thing. Then I tried without Bytemobile and same thing. So I just went back to the old one and all is well again. Nice interface on the new one but worthless since it is buggy or doesn't work.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ebiz wrote:
Tim, the paragraph below was in my preliminary appraisal of the new SCM. Have you experienced the same freeze problems I have when you leave the card connected and enter the sleep or hybernation state?

"Both dial-up connection mode and NDIS connection work well. However, in dial-up, you should disconnect AND exit SCM before placing it in sleep or hybernation or it may freeze and cause you to have to reboot. In NDIS you should remove the data card before placing the computer in a sleep or hybernation state or it may freeze and cause you to have to reboot. "

Steve

Hello Steve,
I just tested the issues you are seeing with sleep and hybernation

Hybernation:
1. I have NDIS selected. Verrified that I am connected to the internet. Closed IE7 and selected hybernation.
2. Brought computer out of hybernation and system came up and connects to internet with out any problems. No user interaction to connect.
3. I didn't do anything with dial-up mode ( I am presuming you are talking about the Microsoft dial-up connection program)? I worked stricly with SCM.
Sleep:
1. Same scenario as hybernation.
2. User interaction: Once system is up I had to hit the connect button to connect to internet. NDIS doesn't auto connect when comming out of sleep.

On another note: I seem to recall that there was an updated by microsoft for Vista. I believe it had something to do with network connections and dial up connections. I believe that you had to manually install these updates at the time. At the time these updates where not packaged with the auto updates microsoft was putting out each week. I think I noticed the issues u are talking about went away when I installed these updates. I have not updated my system to SP1 realease yet. Due to it not the official release yet, and you will have to uninstall it to install the OEM release of SP1. That makes me a little nervous.

If you are running vista Check out this thread, I have ran some of these hacks, and seen my system improve as they advertise.
Link: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=166532

The other thing I wanted to mention if you are running Vista: From what I have read on the above forum it seems that users that have tested both vista 32 and vista 64. Vista 64 is much more stable and they have not seen many issues with there os, and in some cases they really like it and aren't even looking back at XP. My system seems to run just fine and I haven't had any real issues, just some minor stuff that I have figured out how to solve through searching the web or reading this forum. So if you have a system with vista 32 bit, but have a processor that can handle the 64bit, you may want to look into upgrading.

Hope this helps. Did I write enough today? lol

Thanks,
Tim
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xchpstang wrote:
I have a Sprint U727 and a Vista desktop. Tried installing and like others it left the old CM still installed. The connection would just hang for minutes to download a page. I tried doing it again but this time uninstalling the old CM: same thing. Then I tried without Bytemobile and same thing. So I just went back to the old one and all is well again. Nice interface on the new one but worthless since it is buggy or doesn't work.


Not sure what is causing your problem. I am running vista 64bit o.s.
1. I have both new/old SCM on my system. Both are functional.
2. The only problems I have seen with the new SCM is:
a. The Ha Address interface does not function.
b. Can not get the GPS to work inside of my apartment. Cell tower triangulation doesn't seem to work like it used too.

Hacks and tweaks I have done to my system:
1. I have the Signed driver function turned off in the registry, so if you are running the 64bit o.s. maybe this is what is giving you the problem.
2. There was an update to microsoft vista a while back that had something to do with the dial-up and network connection manager. This update was not encluded with auto updates, I had to go to microsofts web page and manually install this update. I would think that it is encluded with auto updated now, but it might not. It may be packaged in SP1, which I have not installed. waiting for the official release.
3. If you are running vista check out this link for hacks and tweaks for vista. I have used several of them and they work as advertised.
Link: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=166532.
4. From reading this thread it seems that users that have tested both vista 32 and 64 o.s. The 64 bit o.s. is more stable and has less issues then the 32 bit o.s. And the users that are running the 64 bit o.s. Aren't even looking back at XP.
5. Did you save the New SCM download to your computer, then install it? If not try installing it by that method. If you just ran the update rather then saving it maybe some of the data got lost in the transition.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on Tim's comments immediately above, my sleep & hybernation problem with SCM1.03.0020.0 is either strictly a Windows XP glitch or a Steve's laptop glitch. Would love to hear the experiences of another XP user with new SCM.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xchpstang wrote:
I have a Sprint U727 and a Vista desktop. Tried installing and like others it left the old CM still installed. The connection would just hang for minutes to download a page...
It takes a full 10 minutes to read all the software in your network configuration and prepare to install, but it does ultimately install. Note the disk light will be burning away. Try it again, but this time turn on a football game and come back 20 minutes later.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="ebiz"][quote="MichiganTim"]
ebiz wrote:
Tim, the paragraph below was in my preliminary appraisal of the new SCM. Have you experienced the same freeze problems I have when you leave the card connected and enter the sleep or hybernation state?

"Both dial-up connection mode and NDIS connection work well. However, in dial-up, you should disconnect AND exit SCM before placing it in sleep or hybernation or it may freeze and cause you to have to reboot. In NDIS you should remove the data card before placing the computer in a sleep or hybernation state or it may freeze and cause you to have to reboot. "

Steve


I did have the problem described at one point in time. I think the update from microsoft for there network and dial-up manager fixed the problem. But It was around the time that the old SCM released vs. 3.08.029. I am assuming it was the update by Microsoft that fixed the issue since users are still having this problem.

Hey ebiz,
I feel your frustration with this issue.
When I first got my notebook it would take Vista roughly 5 minutes to boot up, much slower then XP. Due to this I wanted to use the hybernate/sleep function. Your bringing back some flashbacks I don't care to have lol joking.
Since those days I have found some hacks/tweaks that have kept the boot up/down times to a Minimum. Along with SCM working when coming out of a hybernate/sleep mode all of a sudden.

On another note ebiz,
1. Roughly how long does it take for the New SCM to boot up on XP?
2. On Vista I have noticed that Applications in some cases take more time to boot up then on XP.
3. The New SCM takes much longer then the old SCM to boot up, but maybe that is due to the application being more complicated and more of a resource hog.

ebiz wrote:
Based on Tim's comments immediately above, my sleep & hybernation problem with SCM1.03.0020.0 is either strictly a Windows XP glitch or a Steve's laptop glitch. Would love to hear the experiences of another XP user with new SCM.


ebiz, I saw the sleep/hybernation issue with the old SCM. Maybe I saw it for a period of time with the new SCM too. It's kinda a fog when the problem went away.
1. Did you have this problem with the old SCM? If you have the old SCM still installed on your system, try testing the sleep/hybernation issue with the old SCM.
2. Maybe it is a o.s. issue. Maybe there is a an update by microsoft for XP that will address this issue. And just like Vista, Maybe it is not an auto XP update. So you may have to go to Microsoft's web site and download the update. Try a google search on network and dial-up inprovements for xp. You may find something that will fix it, or try googling sleep/hybernation issue with dial-up.
3. I did a little searching and did not find any solutions to your problem.
4. Try posting your question at this forum: http://forum.notebookreview.com

Thanks,
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MichiganTim wrote:
Roughly how long does it take for the New SCM to boot up on XP?

Re the sleep/hybernation issue with the old SCM, did you have this problem with the old SCM?


Boot-ups with SCM1.03.0020.0 with Windows XP is reasonably fast. NDIS mode takes about 19 seconds to connect form the time I slip my data card in. Under the regular mode (I call dial-up because it uses a dial-up driver in the Windows Network Connections folder even though it is at broadband speeds) it takes abut 4 seconds for the software to load, 10 seconds to recognize the card and the network and about 7 seconds to connect.

I did not have the sleep/hybernation problem running Windows XP and Novatel SCM 3.10.011.
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