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Sprint Connection Manager 1.03.0020.0 Success/Failure

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MichiganTim
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it seems that I have crashed SCM, or my card, (GOOD JOB TIM).
Here is the Details:
1. New SCM. Changed Ha address, saved profile, then reopened Ha adress interface w/o connecting to the network. Looked like the HA address never took, so I was thinking that the save button in the HA adress interface did not work. I was wrong.
2. I dissables the Ha address for profile 1. saved it then exited and connected to network. Everything is till working at this point.
3. Here is where everything went to hell. I did the opposite, I dissabled profile 0. Now I cannot connect via new or old SCM.
4. Tomorrow, I will unistall old and new scm. Then reinstall both and see if I can connect. If not then my next step would be that I need to reset the card, maybe I will attempt this b4 I unistall/reinstall scm.
5. I am thinking I have created some kind of confliction in my card through these settings. But I will need to retest.
6. WHAT EVER YOU DO, DO NOT DISABLE PROFILE 0 IN THE HA INTERFACE SCREEn. I hope that I am recoverable some how, but untill I am back online, I will not know.

ttyl, Tim
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

U720 on an ibm desktop. Yagi antenna.

I have been unable to connect for almost three months now. (Getting tired of paying that monthly bill, and not having anything to show for it.)

The one time in all that time that I have been connected was 1xRTT only, was slower than dialup, and was dropped out 95% of the time. (Not an exaggeration.)

That connection was gotten only because I was on the phone to the sprint techs, and they forced the connection from thier end.

Modem has been tested. No problems. When they forced their way in from their end, they found nothing wrong with the modem, or the way my computer handles the connection, etc... Computer/modem hasn't changed for the entire time I have had the service.

The error message that I get every time, is 678. Remote computer not responding.

Therfore, I hoped that the new SCM might fix the problem. (Thinking maybe they changed something on their end, and the new SCM would deal with that.)

It took 4 hours to download the new SCM on dialup.

I uninstalled the old scm. Removed all networking services. Freed up the com ports. Rebooted. Cleaned the registry. Rebooted again. Twice. Unplugged the U720. Rebooted. Installed the new SCM. Rebooted. Started it up. Plugged the modem back in. Nada. Rebooted. Started the new scm yet again...

No change.

I like the looks of the new SCM. But it doesn't make any difference whatever in getting me back online.

I'll post my results/impressions when/if I ever actually get back online with it. LOL

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luka, take a look at:

Dial up Networking Error 678 (Sprint PC-5740)

Please followup on that thread - not this one.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Michael.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried to go back to the old version and now I"m getting modem initialization error when opening the connection manager up. I am able to create a dial up connection and it works fine through that. My speeds are also back up to 1200 kb/s download as opposed to the 500 to 600 range. I don't know why the older version is not initializing the modem though so maybe I need an older version than this.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Installed SCM 1.03.0020.0

Success - sort of...

Pantech PX500
WinXP Home SP2
Did NOT install ByteMobile

I removed my Pantech from my Linksys router and inserted in my laptop. I should have known something was wrong to start when WinXP popped up a balloon saying "New Hardware Detected", then proceeded to reinstall the Pantech card I've been using for 6 months now.

The new SCM would not connect at first -- showed a -85dBm signal, but when I hit "Connect", I got a dialog box that said something to the effect that it couldn't connect when another connection was present. I dug around in the help to no avail -- there isn't even a troubleshooting guide. Closed the "new" connection manager and opened the old (for the Pantech - version 3.02.036) -- that version could no longer see the card.

I swore at it for a minute, restarted the "new" SCM, then futzed around with the settings, and found a setting that basically said "connect anyway". It then managed to connect.

I opened the "applications" tab, and tried to run a speedtest -- it fired off Internet Exploder (uh, exploRer) - NOT my default browser, Firefox. Since I never use IE, it didn't have Flash installed, so I copied the URL to Sprint's vanity speed test into Firefox and closed IE.

I got around 350 down/325 up. I stepped away for about an hour, and when I came back, it had disconnected. I reconnected, ran another speedtest with similar results, then popped the card out and put it back into my router. I got another speedtest via the router with 400 down/380 up -- about the same. There are evidently others using this tower now, as I usually see a slowdown in the early evening (shades of satellite internet).

Impressions:

  1. The new connection manager is pretty, and seems to have some interesting features.
  2. I don't know why it wants to control my WiFi connection -- the Pantech doesn't support WiFi -- it's smart enough to know the Pantech doesn't support GPS, why isn't it smart enough to skip WiFi?
  3. The options/preferences dialog is confusing -- when I disabled WiFi control, it dropped about half of its tabs, including the tab that let me solve the problem with "Another connection is present".
  4. It should use my default browser for speed testing and other browser-type "applications".
  5. I'm not sure if installing the new software, or just the standard glitches in WinXP caused my system to "Detect New Hardware" when I put the Pantech in the PCMCIA slot. Whatever happened, the interface that the old Pantech/Sprint connection manager used seems to be gone.
  6. I didn't get a chance to check out the VPN setup -- I already have VPN capabilities built into WinXP.

I'll be using my router most of the time, and so far, I don't much like the new connection manager.

RLW
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some tests from my end. SPEED wise, I'm blown away...

I'm running an HP Pavilion dv8000 laptop with Win XP / SP2 and using the Pantech PX-500. (Also have the booster antenna from 3G Store but that's another issue.)

Before:


After:


I installed Bytemobile but left it off. This was after turning it ON:


HOWEVER, having that said, the connection is constantly coming and going. It doesn't matter how good my signal is, as I sit here and type this I'm 100% at -58dBm but my connection has blinked in and out 3 times. Which is causing my AIM and YAHOO and MSN messengers to go crazy, and really recked havock on my online seminar last nite (I'm enrolled in online BA program). Ok, make that 4 times. Is there any feature to turn that off? It's like if it hits a hiccup in the network, instead of just "hanging tight" it kills itself and then restarts INSTANTLY (not like the old "disconnected, go, reconnecting, reconnected from the other SCM). Ok, make that 5 times. See what I mean?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I just got off the phone with tech support, and I am back online. After uninstalling/reinstalling/rolling back updates (Last night). Did an update profile and I am back online tonight. I tryed the update profile last night, but it did not work. I tryed many things last night to get back online and they all failed. Through this process, some how I ended up wiping out the 2 default Profiles for the HA address. Then I did a update profiles at that time, and that just made things worst. The diffrence from tonight vs. last night: is tonight I reloaded the new SCM. When I did that ithe default HA profiles got reloaded. So tonight when I hit the update profile in SCM it was able to update, because it new my user info to connect to the network.

On another note:
I asked the tech why the new scm would not save the HA addresses that I would populate. He could not give me an answer and played the " Oh it's past my shift, and my computer is autmatically shutting down in a minute". So I asked him if he could ask his superviser. He went on to say that everyone has all ready left. I guess I will never no if he was feeding me BS. In closing I asked him how do I find out more information on this issue. THE TECH SAID TO CALL IN AND ASK FOR ATS (ADVANCE TECHNICAL SUPPORT). I will call them tomorrow and see if I really can access the ATS department. But I think I have asked for them before and was told they are not accessable.

Sorry didn't mean to hijack the thread, but I figured that some of this intel could be good, maybe help to reveal a solution to not being able to enter HA in new SCM.

MICHAEL,
Tommorrow I will start a new Thread on HA Addresses/HA Interface in new SCM, Maybe you could move my comments on this topic to that thread, since it does not directly relate to the type of info you are looking for in this thread?

Thanks,
Tim
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Novatel S720 & Windows XP Home SP2
I just installed SCM1.03.0020.0, including Bytemobile, without a hitch. The installer took about 9 minutes checking files on my laptop before actually installing. Prior to installing I completely uninstalled SCM 3.10.011, then deleted the Novatel folder in C:\Program Files and C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data.

SCM1.03.0020.0 has GPS, VPN capability and seems to manage the computers WiFi connections, if you wish. It also incorporates connections to coverage maps, speed tests, online support, account managment, WiFi locator, the Digital Lounge and an extensive help menu in the same form as other Windows applications. WiFi management and Bytemobile Optimization Client can be disabled.

The Sprint Locator doesn't seem to want to determine a location without having a satellite signal.

Both dial-up connection mode and NDIS connection work well. However, in dial-up, you should disconnect AND exit SCM before placing it in sleep or hybernation or it may freeze and cause you to have to reboot. In NDIS you should remove the data card before placing the computer in a sleep or hybernation state or it may freeze and cause you to have to reboot.

It is only programmed to bring up Internet Explorer as oppose to bringing up Firefox or another browser you have listed as your primary.

With previous versions I had set my primary HA to 68.28.153.76 (Roachdale, IN) and the secondary to 68.28.81.76 (Kansas City). SCM1.03.0020.0 changes the HA to 68.28.15.12 and 68.28.31.12 and does not appear to retain changes we make to those. http://speedtest.net indicates the HA is in Cincinatti.

Speed tests with a -74dBm Rev A signal from Reno, NV didn't seem particularly good so there is undoubtedly some tweaking to be done as we all learn more about the new SCM.
Chicago 397 up/406 down/142ms latency
Ft. Worth 494 up/552 down/161ms latency
Atlanta 273 up/262 down/122ms latency

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Novatel S720 & Windows XP.

My sprint connection manager upgraded to the newest version just fine. Just chiming in to report a success Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the Pantech PX-500 Sprint card and was wondering if anyone has any issues with the SCM? I'm thinking of upgrading soon. Is this Bytemobile needed and what does it do? I've read of others not even installing it.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MichiganTim wrote:
do you or any other users have any additional info on the HA addresses. I am surprised that there hasn't been any further discussions on this subject.
Tim, you have given us most of the info to date based on you're experience and I am sure it is appreciated. I am using the HA programmed into it and am happy with it for now. Very Happy

I think some of the negative comments in this thread have scared some away from trying SCM1.03.0020.0, which is truly a shame - especially considering the number of people who tried to rush Sprint to distribute it. Sprint will only discover and fix whatever little glitches exist if we use it broadly.

I have used it now since Christmas Eve and IT WORKS QUITE WELL in regular and NDIS mode. It also installed cleanly. I have not chosen to permit SCM to manage my other WiFi connections as I am very happy with the HP wireless connection software that came with my laptop.

As more people install and use it, we'll all learn more from each other; but it is important for satisfied users to chime in and offer positive comments to balance some of the nay-sayers, some of whose problems may not have anything to do with SCM1.03.0020.0.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ebiz wrote:
MichiganTim wrote:
do you or any other users have any additional info on the HA addresses. I am surprised that there hasn't been any further discussions on this subject.
Tim, you have given us most of the info to date based on you're experience and I am sure it is appreciated. I am using the HA programmed into it and am happy with it for now. Very Happy

I think some of the negative comments in this thread have scared some away from trying SCM1.03.0020.0, which is truly a shame - especially considering the number of people who tried to rush Sprint to distribute it. Sprint will only discover and fix whatever little glitches exist if we use it broadly.

I have used it now since Christmas Eve and IT WORKS QUITE WELL in regular and NDIS mode. It also installed cleanly. I have not chosen to permit SCM to manage my other WiFi connections as I am very happy with the HP wireless connection software that came with my laptop.

As more people install and use it, we'll all learn more from each other; but it is important for satisfied users to chime in and offer positive comments to balance some of the nay-sayers, some of whose problems may not have anything to do with SCM1.03.0020.0.


I am running the new scm with the same configuration as ebiz. Outside of the HA it is running just fine. If I want too I can still run the old SCM on vista ultimate 64. So for users that are nervouse about useing it u have nothing to be nervouse about. It should work just fine.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FFMikeM110 wrote:
I have the Pantech PX500. I installed the new SCM the other day, and ever since then, I'm unable to connect to my local wireless network. Sprint works just fine, but sometimes I want to connect to my home network... any suggestions?
As much as I hate to suggest it, you may need to reinstall the Windows network connections software to get the WiFi working. I have an HP laptop and they were able to send me a link to do that in a flash. Then be sure to uncheck the "Use this as my default Wi-Fi..." box in SCM Tools>Settings>Client, before using it.

When I installed SCM1.03.0020.0, I unchecked it before trying it as a WiFi manager and my WiFi service was unaffected.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dellman wrote:
I have the Pantech PX-500 Sprint card and was wondering if anyone has any issues with the SCM...
Dellman, though I use a Novatel, Pantech users have installed it with no problems. It is always smart to uninstall your current SCM software (but keep a copy on your disk) before installing new SCM software. To be safe once it is installed you might want to uncheck the "Use this as my default Wi-Fi..." box in SCM Tools>Settings>Client. Once SCM is up and running with Sprint, you can expand into having it run other WiFi connections, if you feel adventurous.

Bytemobile is a data accelleration optimizer. I installed and have it doesn't seem to have any negative effects. Here is what Help tells us about Bytemobile.

Data Compression Overview
The Bytemobile Optimization Client runs on your Vista, Windows XP and Windows 2000 computer. It operates in conjunction with the Optimization Services Node server to accelerate the delivery of a wide range of data over TCP/IP.

Setting Optimal Image Quality and Connection Speeds can be seen in the section below named “Configuring Optimization Settings”

Increasing or decreasing the connection speed will impact the quality of downloaded images. Increasing the connection speed reduces the size of the image which degrades the quality while reducing the connection speed, increases the size of the downloaded file which provides higher quality images. To modify connection speeds and image quality:

1. Adjust the slider to select optimization level.

2. Click Apply to save the new settings.
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