Mogul / PPC6800 EVDO Rev A Firmware

mhtyler · EVDO Heavy User Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 133

I have 20 years working in an engineering environment, and spent a number of years as a field engineer in the area of computer networking, specifically TCP/IP. ...oh and I tend not to use spell checkers.

Oh, and btw, I've about 15 years of sales and marketing experience at the executive level.

My point was not to trash the technology, but its implementation and its marketing, which I have backed up. The next time Lionel builds a new guage of track and forgets to make a train for it, I'll complain about them too.

I have high hopes for REV A EVDO. I'm not a pessamist, I am an optimist...who has not yet arrived.
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Antilles · EVDO Newbie Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Posts: 8

Oh wow. I just checked the HTC support page, and this latest firmware update was revoked!

EVDOaddict · EVDO Newbie Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 1

I think when most say EVDO they are referring to EVDO rev 0 which is the initial common flavor. EVDO Rev A is the next step with higher bandwidth which we are all waiting impatiently for our moguls to get. So yes "EVDO" (rev0) is different from EVDO rev A but both are EVDO (IMT-2000 standard# TIA-856.) Kinda like wireless networking in PCs and notebooks IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n you got at home, work, hotspots, whatever (which the mogul has too Very Happy

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From my understanding EVDO rev A is a attained with a compatible chipset in your device as well as the carrier upgrading the towers themselves in your area (could be as simple as sliding an upgraded rev A board in.)

It's bad enough that we don't have Rev A on moguls yet but there is talk of a rev B using multi-channels to attain 4.9Mbps - 14.7Mbps burst (gotten from wikipedia so it's not my BS if it is BS.)

Now let's all sack Antilles for the bad news regarding the firmware update being revoked.

Bigdave · EVDO Addict Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 1068

jackrodgers · EVDO Addict Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 1131

I vote:

EVDO any and all implementations, revisions, etc.

EVDO -150 upload speeds under 150

EVDO +150 upload speeds over 150

Or

EVDO PCMCIA (-150)
EVDO ExpressCard (+150)
EVDO USB (+150)
EVDO Built In (-150)

and finally

EVDO dormant
EVDO connected

Michael · Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:41 am Post subject:

Here is the latest from Sprint:

Michael · Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:38 am Post subject:

There are some discussions in other threads that Sprint is releasing a new Rev A firmware for the Mogul today. On the Sprint web site as of 8:37am CST, the only version is 2.17.651.0, which is NOT the Rev A firmware.
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kalen43 · EVDO Heavy User Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 130

mhtyler · EVDO Heavy User Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 133

Exchanging emails with the HTC folks, they hinted that the software update will be posted later today.

mark
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Michael · Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject:

It has been posted, I am downloading the update now.

It is at:

http://www.sprint.com/downloads

Here are the release notes:

Michael · Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject:

*** Warning ***

Read the installation directions carefully.

When doing the firmware upgrade, ALL the data on your Mogul will be erased, so make sure that ActiveSync performs a backup BEFORE doing the upgrade. After your Rev A firmware is installed, all your data should be restored.
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Michael · Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject:

First tests:

- Google Maps works great http://www.google.com/gmm/
- Telenav on Mogul works.
- Sprint Software Store (Not sure if this was working before - not a big deal)

I will report on Rev A speed tests later.
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Michael · Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject:

Kind of goofy, there is no "EVDO Rev A" indicator, just the same "EVDO" indicator at the top of the screen.
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mhtyler · EVDO Heavy User Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 133

My first speed tests have been something of a letdown. In general download speeds are down. On rev O I was averaging above 1400, and often over 2000, although upload speeds were pathetic.

Now, download speeds are the same or slower: 1300 or less, although upload speeds are encourage 3 to 5 times rev O.

Pings are also a disapppointment. I don't see a bit of difference. I wonder if its because I'm in Naples FL and my HA is inCleveland?

Anyway, you'd think it would still be lower than rev O.
BTW, when I do separate ping tests to popular sites like yahoo.com I do get sub 200 pings. I believe voip is possible and practical with sub 2oo pings IF there is substantive consistancy...there is delay, but clarity, much like an old style long distance call...acceptable...or it should be.

mark
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ChrisM · Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject:

I've got it installed, and have tried using it with WMWiFiRouter. I'm getting similar results. Downloads are about the same, and uploads are about 3x faster.

I tried the GPS "TeleNav" application, and when I asked it to show my current location here in NYC, it was off by a full block.

I'm pretty happy though simply to get the improved upload speed.

One other thing worth noting is that this ROM recognizes all 8GB of my 8GB micro SDHC card, whereas the ROM which shipped with my phone only saw 4GB.