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xenophon EVDO Addict
Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 2004
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:19 am Post subject: |
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From the WiMAX industry perspective, it would probably be best for them if Sprint sold off the Xohm group to someone interested in the industry, like Google or even Intel. But Sprint would be foolish to let that go.
Sprint is now under the control of short-term minded investors. They don't care if they destroy Sprint if they can chop it into pieces for more short term gain. If they give up Xohm and/or the spectrum, they are insanely thinking Sprint could continue down the traditional cell biz model and actually win customers back. Well there isn't much growth left in cellphone market so you have to grab them from competitors. That plan is much riskier than spending $5B on WiMAX.
They need a new model that is a paradigm shift. WiMAX is the only chance they have to offer something different from their competitors - and something their competitors will not be able to match for years. If Sprint gives up that spectrum, they'll head down a downward spiral. And the stakeholders won't care as long as they profit and then get out.
If common sense and compromise win in the end, we may see a slower rollout of WiMAX by Sprint. Otherwise, I'd love to see Google buy the Xohm division. |
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xrayman EVDO Junkie
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 319 Location: Kansas City
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Most of the financial news articles I have read today summarize the Sprint XOHM project using the buzz words: New unproven technology or risky venture. It is good to see at least one analyst at the Stanford Group make the statement, "Sprint should not spin off WiMax because it gives the company a technological edge over other service providers."
One can hope the new Sprint CEO will have some insight about what it will take to make Sprint a viable company in the long run. Not someone that will rubber stamp the wishes of some of the Sprint board members and Wall Street to sell divisions for a short term profit. |
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Fox McCloud EVDO Junkie
Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Posts: 618
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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I have to pretty much agree with you...though I absolutely detest the idea of Google getting a hold of XOHM. Why? While they could easily combine it with others service, ultimately I see a dimly lit tunnel filled with Google advertisements, propaganda, recorded searches, and the like. I wouldn't trust Intel with XOHM either.
About the only company I'd half-way (if that) trust XOHM with would be Clearwire....at least they're not connected up (per se') with anyone else...and deal specifically with WiMAX. |
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xchpstang EVDO Junkie
Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 225 Location: Turlock, CA
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| It is hard to fault the investors. The technology is unproven and Sprint promising a very slow rollout especially compared to EVDO. Think about it. From Sprint's first EVDO Rev 0 test markets in the spring of 2005 to the fall of 2007 they went from 0 population covered to covering 220 million plus with now EVDO Rev A. Wimax promises an underwhelming rollout to a mere 100 million in the same amount of time. Then they talk about having to build out completely new infrastructure, nothing from any of the current Sprint networks will be reused per se. Then, to top it off, the first demonstration of a live Wimax network in Chicago was not exactly mind boggling. 3+ Meg per second is decent by any standard but just pales compared to any wireline offering and is not a quantum leap from EVDO Rev A or HSDPA speeds. |
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xenophon EVDO Addict
Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 2004
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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On performance, I don't think it's what matters as long as it's reasonable for most users. If EVDO and WiMAX had the exact same performance, WiMAX still has more advantages since it could be easily/cheaply deployed on any consumer device, could be self-marketing (see Best Buy scenario on page 1), has no royalties and has broader industry support than cell-based networks. You typically can't buy a new laptop today w/out WiFi. If Intel has their way, you won't be able to buy a laptop w/out WiFi/WiMAX in a couple years.
On cost, I could understand investors finding it too risky. Maybe Sprint should split off the Xohm group that Sprint has a majority ownership of, but allows Intel to own say 20%, Google/Samsung a portion as well as others willing to buy Xohm stock. They could spread this risk with others knee deep in the WiMAX industry. Maybe that's the best compromise.
The timing of coverage is indeed a challenge but not re-using the existing network is a benefit in the long run, getting away from legacy networks. The future is wireless data built for data, not a transition voice network to data that still has legacy voice ties.
Back on performance, I'm trying to figure out who needs more than 5Mbps. I got rid of my 5Mbps cable modem for just EVDO. Only issue I have is when trying to stream high quality video. WiMAX at 2-4Mbps, lower latency and better QoS should improve that. Most consumer devices with WiMAX won't need much bandwidth (a streaming audio player only needs 200Kbps at most. A Garmin GPS updating maps doesn't need massive bandwidth). I'd bet that 2-4Mbps would meet 90-95% of most user needs for most mobile devices.
But I could be wrong. Anyone have FIOS? What do you actually use the extra bandwidth for? P2P? |
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CraigCraig EVDO Heavy User
Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 142
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:16 am Post subject: |
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Someone mentioned that the roll out for WiMax would have been underwhelming with a coverage of 100 million potential users in the same time Sprint took to cover 220 million users and there is, IMO, a big BUT due.
I'm no expert but if I understand it correctly 100 million potential WiMax users does not mean 100 million connections. Given the capabilities of WiMax it could mean 500 million connections (and more) as an endless number of devices would be able to connect to the Web without user intervention. Of course these wouldn't all be high use, high cost connections but they could give Sprint a massive advantage over it's competition.
Regarding the speed of WiMax as shown by Sprint's Chicago demo...isn't it true that the speed of WiMax depends more upon the backhaul than the WiMax equipment in the hands of the consumer?
Forsee's departure from Sprint might very well result in the end of the company. It appears that Sprint might blow a huge opportunity and competitive advantage that would not boost revenues for the next quarter in favor of dismantling the company and old "proven" but near obsolete technology that investors think they understand.
In the end the only winners might be the exec's with compensation packages that give them millions even if they kill the company. |
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Fox McCloud EVDO Junkie
Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Posts: 618
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| CraigCraig wrote: | | Regarding the speed of WiMax as shown by Sprint's Chicago demo...isn't it true that the speed of WiMax depends more upon the backhaul than the WiMax equipment in the hands of the consumer? |
yup...just like EVDO Revision A; no one has been able to hit the 3.1 meg down and 1.8 meg up limit yet....mostly because no tower has that kind of backhaul (three data-only T1 lines). |
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xrayman EVDO Junkie
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 319 Location: Kansas City
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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On Tuesday AT&T announced it would purchase spectrum licenses in the 700-MHz spectrum in January from Aloha Partners for $2.5 billion.
http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=0210022CB5XC
With Sprint's plans for a WiMAX network AT&T must feel the need to secure spectrum for a new G4 network. They must be planning on bidding in the upcoming FCC auction for more of the 700-MHz spectrum.
If Sprint drops or slows deployment of the XOHM network AT&T could be set to take the lead in the broadband wireless market. |
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xenophon EVDO Addict
Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 2004
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.thestreet.com/s/sprint-shuffle-squeezes-intel/newsanalysis/tech-update/10383826_4.html
| Quote: | A Sprint spokesman said the company is continuing with its previously announced WiMax plans at this point.
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f Sprint were to pull the plug on the project, it would be a disaster for WiMax, says Craig Mathias, a principal with Farpoint Group, an advisory firm that specializes in wireless technology.
But Mathias doesn't believe Sprint would do something that drastic. "There's value there, and they're planning on going live in two cities by the end of the year," he says.
A more likely scenario, says Mathias, would be for Sprint to spin off the WiMax unit into a separate entity.
And that's where things could get interesting.
Intel's venture capital arm has demonstrated a strong commitment to funding companies involved in building the WiMax infrastructure.
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xrayman EVDO Junkie
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 319 Location: Kansas City
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Forsee will remain on the Sprint payroll until Jan. 1. and his severance package could total $55 million, according to article in Kansas City Star.
http://www.kansascity.com/382/story/314601.html
An upgrade by Wachovia Capital Markets LLC analyst Gray Powell, gave Sprint stock a small boost on Friday.
| Quote: | | “We think Sprint-Nextel will break even in the first quarter and achieve positive sustainable postpaid subscriber growth starting in the second quarter of 2008,” Powell wrote. |
http://www.kansascity.com/382/story/314913.html |
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xrayman EVDO Junkie
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 319 Location: Kansas City
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Sprint rejects proposal to install ex-chairman as CEO
| Quote: | By JASON GERTZEN
The Kansas City Star
Posted on Thu, Nov. 29, 2007 10:15 PM
Former Sprint chairman Tim Donahue still enjoys strong support among some Sprint employees and investors.
Sprint Nextel’s board reportedly turned down a proposal that would have installed former chairman Tim Donahue as chief executive and brought $5 billion from a South Korean telecom company. |
http://www.kansascity.com/business/story/383114.html |
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jackrodgers EVDO Addict
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 1131
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| xrayman wrote: | | Forsee will remain on the Sprint payroll until Jan. 1. and his severance package could total $55 million, according to article in Kansas City Star.l |
That's 200,000 early close out fees! |
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xrayman EVDO Junkie
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 319 Location: Kansas City
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Sprints future in limbo as search for new CEO continues
| Quote: | By JASON GERTZEN
The Kansas City Star
The next CEO of Sprint Nextel might be sitting in an office just down the street in Overland Park. |
http://www.kansascity.com/business/story/393375.html |
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Michael Site Admin
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 5308 Location: Cary, IL
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Sprint Nextel Names Wireless Veteran Dan Hesse as President and CEO
The Sprint Nextel Board of Directors has named wireless industry veteran Daniel R. Hesse, 54, as president and chief executive officer of the company, effective immediately. He previously was chairman, president and CEO of Embarq Corporation. "Dan Hesse is the right person to lead our company,” said board member Irvine O. Hockaday, Jr., who chaired the board’s CEO search committee. "He is a proven leader with deep wireless experience as a chief executive and an established track record of generating strong operating performance. He has the board’s full support to take decisive actions necessary to improve our performance.” "Sprint Nextel is a company with a strong set of assets, but clearly we must improve execution across the board,” said James H. Hance, the company’s non-executive chairman. "Dan’s mandate is to hone our strategy, improve our ability to serve our customers and execute in the marketplace. I am convinced that under Dan’s leadership we will deliver sustainable results and build shareholder value.” "Dan’s record of achievement is impressive,” Hance added. "He possesses marketing and innovation savvy along with considerable operating acumen. Under his leadership, AT&T Wireless became the nation’s largest carrier at the time and grew revenues three times faster than the rate of the industry. The company earned awards for service and innovation, along with recognition for overall performance. At Embarq he has done an excellent job of leading the company through its inception, building its brand and delivering solid financial and operating results.” "I am honored and excited to lead Sprint Nextel at this important time in its history,” said Hesse. "There is no company in the wireless industry with a stronger set of assets. I believe through solid execution and commitment to our customers we can reinvigorate our operating performance and return the company to a growth trajectory. We will review every aspect of our strategy as we intend to lead Sprint to the forefront of the wireless industry.” "Additionally, I would like to thank the Board and employees of Embarq Corp. for the honor of serving them. Together we built a great brand, culture and company. Sprint and Embarq are major customers and suppliers to each other so I look forward to continuing to work closely with all of my friends at Embarq.” Hesse had been chairman and CEO since Embarq’s inception in 2006. Prior to the formation of Embarq, he served as CEO of Sprint’s Local Telecommunications Division for one year before the spin-off that created Embarq. Hesse previously has spent 23 years at AT&T, including serving between 1997 and 2000 as the president and CEO of AT&T Wireless Services, which was then the United States’ largest wireless operator. Hesse also has joined Sprint Nextel’s board of directors. Hance also expressed gratitude to Paul Saleh, the company’s chief financial officer, who served as interim CEO for the past two months. "The Board and all Sprint employees appreciate and respect the dedication and energy that Paul provided. We thank him for the leadership he demonstrated during this period.” Hance to Remain as Non-Executive Chairman The Sprint Nextel board also announced that it had elected Hance to continue serving as non-executive chairman. Hance, 63, is a senior adviser to the Carlyle Group and retired vice chairman and board member of Bank of America. He has been a Sprint board member since February 2005 and was named non-executive chairman when Gary Forsee, who had been chairman, president and CEO, stepped down in October. Hance served as vice chairman of Bank of America Corporation from 1993 until Jan. 31, 2005 and as the chief financial officer of Bank of America Corporation from 1988 until April 2004. Hance served as a director of Sprint Corporation from Feb. 2005 until its merger with Nextel Communications in August 2005, and he has served as a director of Sprint Nextel since that time. He serves on the board’s Audit, Executive and Finance Committees. He also serves on the boards of Duke Energy, Cousins Properties and Rayonier Inc. |
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xrayman EVDO Junkie
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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During the last couple of weeks rumors were running all around Embarq that Dan Hesse was going to be the new Sprint CEO. |
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