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tbhausen EVDO Junkie
Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 158
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to use the 270-409 enclosed 4-cell AA holder. It has on on/off switch which would be quite handy. The other required parts would be:
273-1743 Adaptaplug Socket
273-1717 Adaptaplug "N" (I think... or the "L")
The 273-1818 High Power 12 Adapter would work well, but I'm expecting something smaller/cheaper from Cradlepoint, so I'm waiting on that.
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chasp044 EVDO Newbie
Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: Novatel USB 720 and Cradlepoint |
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We live in a RV full time with limited space. Yesterday I started up the above mentioned. Even though Cradlepoint has a couple of negatives, it is what met our criteria/needs.
Tonight we are having severe T Storms, TV dish out, but I am still connected to broadband! Verizon.
Will post more as I learn more. Im kinda of a hacker!
Thanks 3G Store, for the fast delivery and service!  _________________ Charlie P |
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Alex Site Admin
Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 3074 Location: Dallas, TX
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jackrodgers EVDO Addict
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 1131
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:51 am Post subject: |
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Pelican has many nice cases which can be adapted to carry the Cradlepoint.
I have been using the 1490 for about 8 years. This one has an upper folder insert, a molded side area for misc and a molded two area with foam inserts. I sized them to hold two LaCie Pocket Drives on one side and CDs on the other. They now serve to carry other equipment but would hold the Cradlepoint and batteries nicely. All in a briefcase.
It is quite rugged and will protect the laptop or 15" MacBook Pro quite nicely. I have dropped it several times. It floats and is watertight, great for rainy days.
A different case might be used for the Cradlepoint and hold several battery packs. Sounds like a great an inexpensive mobile wifi point. |
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gmcnutt EVDO Fledgling
Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Posts: 14
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: Novatel USB 720 and Cradlepoint |
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| chasp044 wrote: | | Even though Cradlepoint has a couple of negatives, it is what met our criteria/needs. |
What are some of the negatives? |
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kocoman EVDO User
Joined: 07 Jun 2007 Posts: 54
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| Can this broadcast the Novatel GPS signal via bluetooth ? |
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Michael Site Admin
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 5308 Location: Cary, IL
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JGriggs EVDO User
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 79 Location: North Central Indiana
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:49 am Post subject: |
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I ran across something that may or may not work in this application.
There are some unknowns.
Also the cost of entry is a little high....
Black and Decker is replacing their old versa pack system with a new system called VPX. This a battery pack that carries two of A123 nano-phosphate (read as almost completely safe - no lithium battery fires) cells in the package. The cells (each) are rated for 2.3 Ahr and 3.3 volts, which works out to about 15 watts in the package. (The 4 AA batteries would yield roughly 12 watts).
The item that makes this system interesting is a tiny (in power) inverter / USB module. While I first considered it a novelty, there may be application here.
VPX inverter
The battery goes inside of this and provides 5 volt power through a USB port or 8 watts continuous (10 watts surge) 120 VAC through an inverter.
The target market is to be able to take these "power tool" batteries along and charge cellphones, razors, and other low power devices.
However, if 8 watts (continuous) with a 10 watt surge is enough to get the CTR350 going, this would be a complete system for the non-technical person who wanted rechargeable portability. Due to the double conversion loss (DC -> AC -> DC), I have no idea what the runtime would be. Remember that this all makes the assumption that it will power up off this inverter.
The more interesting method would be though the USB port. Purchase a cheap USB cable, cut the end off, and solder on one of the barrel plugs mentioned above. This would plug nicely into the USB port of the VPX system and would be regulated 5 volts (assumed or they would be blowing up lots of products). The only problem here is that they don't define the available power on the USB port output.
Assuming that one didn't have anything in this system, it looks like the entry point is about ~$55. One battery and charger seem to be $35. The power module is another $20. Batteries alone are $20 (for expansion of runtime).
Basically, there may be an option for turnkey battery power, but there would need to be some testing done first. |
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jackrodgers EVDO Addict
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 1131
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rr0123 EVDO User
Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 32
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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I have used the Cradlepoint with the small $40 APC battery pack and U727, and it works fine. Didn't do a drain down to see for how long.
Also works with the Xantrex Mobile Mini. Does NOT work with the small Lenmar $40 pack you can get at Fry's, not enough juice. |
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macinfosys EVDO User
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 43 Location: Lake Forest, CA
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:11 am Post subject: |
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I personally have been using a solution that another user here had also tested and I have been very happy with it. Matter of fact a few of our clients have already purchased similar setup after seeing our configuration. The footprint is very portable and fairly light weight and the battery life is amazing. I am averaging about 2-3 days of normal usage before the battery has gotten down to the point of needing to be charged.
Not only that, this battery pack can also handle powering another USB device at the same time it is powering the CRT350. It also has the ability to power basically anything else up to 19v and 5 amps as long as you get the proper tip for it.
Here are a few photo's of the final setup.
http://gallery.mac.com/babacks#100020
I put it inside a PSP carry case from Water Field
http://www.sfbags.com/products/psp/psp.htm
And the battery manufacturer: Tekkeon
http://www.tekkeon.com/site/products-mypowerall.php
Also it takes very little time to charge the battery pack when partially drained and can even be charged with a DC adapter that they offer.
Enjoy.
http://www.macinfosys.com |
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Alex Site Admin
Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 3074 Location: Dallas, TX
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| macinfosys wrote: | | I am averaging about 2-3 days of normal usage before the battery has gotten down to the point of needing to be charged. |
During these 2-3 days, what would CTR350 total hours of runtime be? |
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macinfosys EVDO User
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 43 Location: Lake Forest, CA
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| Alex wrote: | | macinfosys wrote: | | I am averaging about 2-3 days of normal usage before the battery has gotten down to the point of needing to be charged. |
During these 2-3 days, what would CTR350 total hours of runtime be? |
I have turned it on from 8am and left it in my bag till about 6-7pm, and has been used fairly actively with my iPhone, and my MBP has used it probably 2-4 hours during that time frame. Then the process was repeated again the following 1-2 days before needing a charge.
We have not had the opportunity to use it CONSTANTLY for the entire day to be able to figure if it would shorten the battery drastically. But the simple fact that I can power the router with the USB727 and be broadcasting WIFI for that period of time is amazing....
One more thing if weight / size was not a huge factor, you can even attach an optional 2nd battery pack (the same exact size) to the setup and double your run time!
www.macinfosys.com |
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visortgw EVDO User
Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 91 Location: Upstate NY
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| macinfosys wrote: | | Alex wrote: | | macinfosys wrote: | | I am averaging about 2-3 days of normal usage before the battery has gotten down to the point of needing to be charged. |
During these 2-3 days, what would CTR350 total hours of runtime be? |
I have turned it on from 8am and left it in my bag till about 6-7pm, and has been used fairly actively with my iPhone, and my MBP has used it probably 2-4 hours during that time frame. Then the process was repeated again the following 1-2 days before needing a charge.
We have not had the opportunity to use it CONSTANTLY for the entire day to be able to figure if it would shorten the battery drastically. But the simple fact that I can power the router with the USB727 and be broadcasting WIFI for that period of time is amazing....
One more thing if weight / size was not a huge factor, you can even attach an optional 2nd battery pack (the same exact size) to the setup and double your run time!
www.macinfosys.com |
Does one of the standard tips (i.e., included) work with the CTR-350, or did you need to purchase a custom tip? |
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macinfosys EVDO User
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 43 Location: Lake Forest, CA
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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it comes with I think about 7 or 8 tips (sorry don't have the bag handy to count all of them). The one that fits has a yellow color end to it. The battery pack defaults to 5 volts when powered on which is what the CTR350 requires. Plug the power cord to the battery first (turns on the battery pack) and then connect the cable with the tip attached to the router and you have power to the router immediately.
Like I said earlier, you can even attach a USB cable to the battery pack (at the same time) and it will power what ever device is on the ether end of the USB cable.
www.macinfosys.com |
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