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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good job, Xeno. Whip all that cap yap back to the cap threads (of which there are many). Wink

I know Sprint & Clearwater are under huge pressure right now with the politics of other industry players lining up the way they are. Trust in Wimax will boost dramatically when Spr-Clear can validate the test plan for Chicago and DC that was published over a year ago, but was then pulled back, or can publish a new test or roll-out plan. The silence has been deafening on that first city test. That will bring Wimax to the for or accelerate LTE in its stead.

Whoops. I take the above back. Hot off the press (that being the pokier 24 hour press)...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9972229-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5
"...Sprint Nextel will launch its first commercial WiMax service in Baltimore in September, Sprint CEO Dan Hesse said Wednesday during a speech at the NxtComm trade show... Sprint will turn up WiMax service in two other cities, Chicago and Washington, before the end of the year, Hesse added.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ebiz wrote:
Good job, Xeno. Whip all that cap yap back to the cap threads (of which there are many). Wink
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That will bring Wimax to the for or accelerate LTE in its stead.


Since we are returning to our regular programming, here is an interesting article from EETimes about possible convergence of WiMax and LTE;
http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208403496&pgno=3&printable=true&printable=true
I can see how Intel might be interested in either a dual-mode hardware solution for WiMax/LTE or even a software defined radio, also mentioned.

And while we are discussing trials, here's another article talking about a WiMax trial in Taiwan this year.
http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208402096&printable=true&printable=true
This one has live-broadcast TV, video conferenceing and voice listed. Globile Mobile is mentioned as the supplier.
This article also mentions Sprint/Clearwire in the US.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a shame Asia, Europe and the US are each using different segments of the spectrum for Wimax (2.3 Ghx, 3.6 Ghz & 2.5 Ghz). That will make equipment production more expensive and could waste a tremendous opportunity to provide service to travelers.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ebiz wrote:
It's a shame Asia, Europe and the US are each using different segments of the spectrum for Wimax (2.3 Ghx, 3.6 Ghz & 2.5 Ghz). That will make equipment production more expensive and could waste a tremendous opportunity to provide service to travelers.


The spectrum differences probably don't drive cost up as much as protocol/baseband differences. It's true that *any* difference means multiple models or at least added agility; frequency agility in the case of spectrum and protocol agility (as in SDR) otherwise but some differences are cheaper than others.

I would think that a WiMax/LTE combo could make the other differences relatively minor and inexpensive to accommodate. I'm sure that Intel would like to see this but not sure what the rest of the providers will have to say.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

XOHM Achieves Important Milestone
After a speech announcing Sprint’s XOHM unit would start its WiMAX launch in Baltimore this September, followed by Washington, D.C., and Chicago in the fourth quarter, by Sprint CEO Dan Hesse this week at the NXTComm08 convention in Las Vegas. Senior vice president of Sprint business operations Atish Gude made projections how XOHM WiMAX will evolve over the next couple of years. Gude said the most important milestone that Xohm has achieved is provisioning a number of different chip sets and devices over the WiMAX network without any manual intervention by device manufacturers, carriers or vendors. In other words, customers will be able to buy devices in stores and activate them on their own at home without signing a multiyear contract. “What this will do is separate the purchase of the device from the purchase of the service,” said Gude. “Customers will have the freedom to buy devices on their own without signing multiyear contracts.”
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/061808-sprint-nextel-to-launch-wimax.html?tc=vc
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyxel shipments of WiMAX products Remain Steady
"Zyxel, which began to ship WiMAX routers to Sprint Nextel in the first half of 2008, said that it has been using chips from sources other than Runcom for US-bound products, and so the company's shipments to the US market are not affected by the problems..." Zyxel Communications' is a major supplier CPE WiMAX devices for use on the Sprint XOHM network.
http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20080620PD211.html
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that Sprint is transfering its XOHM division to the joint venture with Clearwire, the XOHM name will probably change back to WiMAX. Key investors in the JV are Clearwire, Sprint Nextel, Intel Corp, Google, Comcast, Time Warner Cable, and Bright House Networks. Sprint will own 51%, Clearwire 27% and all others combined will have 22%.

Clearwire newsroom, http://newsroom.clearwire.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=214419&p=irol-news&nyo=0
Sprint newsroom, http://www.sprint.com/newsreleases

The most recent important announcement was on 9Jun08 and was related to the formation of the Open Patent Alliance (OPA), a pool to share WiMAX related patents by Alcatel-Lucent, Cisco, Clearwire, Intel Corporation, Samsung Electronics and Sprint, http://newsroom.clearwire.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=214419&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1163934 .

Surprisingly, the JV was not even mentioned in the Clearwrie Proxy Statement for its annual meeting on 20Jun08, http://library.corporate-ir.net/library/19/198/198722/items/295102/Clear08Proxy.pdf .
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ebiz wrote:
Surprisingly, the JV was not even mentioned in the Clearwrie Proxy Statement for its annual meeting on 20Jun08.


Yes it does appear to us on the outside that Sprint and Clearwire are proceeding as if the JV never took place. Until the new JV receives government approval sometime in late 2008 it looks like the WiMax network rollout will be confined to what Sprint and Clearwire have installed previous to the formation of the New Clearwire JV. Hopefully by the 1Q 2009 if all goes well we will see many new WiMax sites installed and ready to come on line.

xchangemag has posted two very good interviews with Clearwire's Ben Wolff and Sprints Barry West.
http://www.xchangemag.com/articles/interview-clearwire-ben-wolff-wimax.html
http://www.xchangemag.com/articles/interview-clearwire-sprint-barry-west-wimax.html
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sprint's WiMax Laundry List
UNSTRUNG has posted a video of an interview with Atish Gude, VP of business operations for Sprint’s Xohm WiMax unit. He talks about the price structure of the new WiMax service about to rollout in the Baltimore area.
http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=158196
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clearwire as announced they will launch WiMAX service in Portland, OR; Las Vegas, NV; Atlanta, GA; and Grand Rapids, MI in 2009.
A spokesperson for Clearwire said: "I would like to emphasize that while Clearwire and Sprint announced a transaction to merge our WiMAX businesses, the deal is still pending approval. Until the transaction is closed, we will continue to operate as separate companies and therefore our networks are separate as well."
http://www.betanews.com/article/Clearwire_launches_new_WiMAX_beta_in_Portland_Oregon/1215720398
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sprint has announced a deal with Mformation Technologies to deliver device management capabilities for new Xohm-branded WiMAX-enabled mobile devices.
"Still, device management software is not fully optimized for WiMAX-only devices, noted Matt Bancroft, chief marketing officer with Mformation. Since most of the devices running on Sprint's network will be dual-mode CDMA/WiMAX devices, Mformation is conducting the remote device management capabilities via the CDMA connection, which has been fully established." http://www.fiercebroadbandwireless.com/story/sprints-xohm-taps-mformation-remote-device-management/2008-07-14

Did I miss something here? What dual-mode CDMA/WiMAX devices? Has anyone seen an announcement about a CDMA/WiMAX device?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a Samsung Windows Mobile device running CDMA/Wimax. I don't have a pic but they had it on display at CTIA.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:25 am    Post subject: WiMax Backhaul Reply with quote

So Baltimore WiMax comes up before DC? Interesting....

BTW, it will be enlightening to see how well the service actually performs. Reliable Informed Sources tell me that Sprint is having a hard time getting enough backhaul bandwidth to its towers. That's hardly surprising since in most cases the backhauls are rented from the RBOC; and here, that's Verizontal.

If there's an advantage to VZ in having a competitor that will steal some of their business, I haven't found it.
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Last year Sprint announced they would use FiberTower for wireless backhaul services on the XOHM network and Fiber cable when available. In recent days Sprint said they will be using the DragonWave system for backhaul networks that will use a mesh of radios to increase reliability.
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"For its networks in Baltimore, Washington, D.C., and Chicago, the first three markets for its WiMax service, Sprint will use equipment from DragonWave, an Ottawa company that makes wireless Ethernet nodes that can be arranged in a mesh. The backhaul networks will start to be rolled out this month and will be completed by the end of the year, said Alan Solheim, vice president of product management at DragonWave. Sprint struggled with wireless backhaul at first because it has traditionally used leased lines and lacked in-house expertise in this type of technology, Solheim said. DragonWave doesn't have trouble finding qualified engineers, according to him. But he acknowledged that microwave backhaul is much more widely used outside the U.S., which he estimated is less than 10 percent of the global market for it. Relatively abundant and inexpensive T-1 lines have stifled the technology here, according to Sprint's West. Sprint will use a combination of DragonWave's Horizon Compact and Horizon Duo units, for the edge and the core of networks, respectively, Solheim said. These are much fatter pipes than typical leased lines: 800M bps on one link for the Compact and 1.6G bps per link for the Duo. Multiple links can be set up on each." http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/148150/sprint_picks_wireless_backhaul_for_wimax.html
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WiMax report excerpt: The WiMax TCO advantage

http://www.muniwireless.com/2008/07/12/wimax-report-excerpt-the-wimax-tco-advantage/
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