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GTO_VR4
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:48 pm    Post subject: So now that the U720 is discontinued... Reply with quote

What does it mean really?

Ever since Sprint discontinued the U720, my signal strength went from -85dBm to over -100dbm. is it because my modem isnt supported anymore? its in the same spot and can barely go online and check my bills.

Is it possible to return this to sprint and receive some type of credit towards a new modem? i spent over 200$ about 2 months ago on this modem\service and now they discontinue it? thats NOT cool.

So whats the deal?
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Alex
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the idea that a device no longer sold means its no longer supported, is ludicrous, really.

there are folks out there using old PCMCIA cards from sprint like the S620 and they never caused any rumor about not being supported.

also a bunch of people using PC5740's from sprint. and CDU550's.

think about what you're perpetuating by posting stuff like this.

you are on a CONTRACT with sprint with that U720. they have to support you and the device, throughout that contract.

right?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And to be honest, the tower doesn't know if you are using a U720 or any other kind of Sprint EVDO modem. It can't change signal strength just based on what model your hardware is. RF doesn't work that way... Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MAYBE GotSprint FRIEND ? Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also....

There are 694 U720s in our Sprint Warehouse as of this morning.

When these run out, Sprint may be out of them and not ordering more. However, we are working on other sources to fulfil orders.

Look for lots of changes to the Sprint USB Devices over the next few months Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the title of this thread should be changed to help stop perpetuating this rumor?

One thing to check for anyone experiencing sudden slow downs (to 1xrtt from EVDO especially) is your billing status. I discovered the hard way myself that, although I have had my account on the auto pay system for some time now, there had been a glitch in their new system they're switching over to and my payment hadn't been credited properly. (Even though they had certainly taken my money from my bank!) Anyway, their first line of defense appears to be limiting you to 1xrtt. I actually ended up being disconnected completely before I got it all straightened out (talking about a nightmare of incompetence!!) I just thought there might be somebody else out there who this could apply to.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigdave, I wish you had posted that comment like 3 weeks ago! lol I thought I was having issues all over the place with my EVDO cause I was only getting 1xrtt no matter where I was and it was the same issue as yours, my autopay went someplace else and it took me talking to level 2 tech support THEN financial care or whatever to find out that my status on billing was the reason for the slow connection! Gotta love Sprint...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"glitches" like those are one of the biggest reasons I choose to decline autopay enrollment wherever offered. I'll take my bill online and pay it online, but I don't let anybody help themselves to my money. That way I have hard copy printouts of all transactions with confirmation numbers when I pay the bills. The only ones I trust to "help themselves" is the credit union that holds the title on my truck. And in that case.... I HAVE THE TRUCK! Laughing LOL Laughing And it's still worth more than I owe on it! <giggle> (only 5 more months to pay... then the rearview mirror can fall off.)

Hmmmm.... seems I went a little off topic there..... So why stop now?

Way OT... I'm moving to Tucson in a week and a half and will be fully testing my U720's GPS capability w/ S&T 2007 the whole way. If I have the time during rest stops along the way, ( I-5 -> I-10 -> I-19), then I will post to the maps as well, location and service. The house I rented there is only half a mile from the RevA tower with very nice LOS. (I wonder what the backhaul is like???) Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: Is the U720 really discontinued? Reply with quote

I just spoke to 4 people at Sprint. I was originally calling because my second U720 is starting to bend at the usb connector and causing erratic connections, just like my first one did. In the course of trying to figure out what my options were for replacing/repairing/upgrading my device, I talked to first a Tier 1 tech and then a Tier 2 tech, both of whom told me that they did not show anything that indicated that the Ovation U720 has reached EOL. I then asked to be transferred to sales and was again told by a sales rep and a supervisor that this device is still available and has not been discontinued.

Additionally, on July 25th... two days after the supposed EOL date, I was notified of a firmware update being available for my U720. I downloaded it, fully expecting to get an error message that the firmware was already upgraded (I was thinking it was an error in Sprint's systems and it was the same as the Rev A firmware update in April/May), but it did not give an error and sucessfully installed the firmware. The new FW version is 147 (was originally 145) and my PRL is now 60808 (was originally 60807).

I'm currently on the way home from a trip to North Dakota, so I don't have the information I wrote down regarding what was/is new in the firmware upgrade handy; but when I get home in approx 5 hours, I will log on and post the information.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: Is the U720 really discontinued? Reply with quote

Joel Schmidt wrote:
I just spoke to 4 people at Sprint. I was originally calling because my second U720 is starting to bend at the usb connector and causing erratic connections, just like my first one did.


I use the cable rather than plug the device directly into a port to avoid the problem you state. The cable also acts as an additional antenna according to some.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The USB cable doesn't act as an additional antenna, it allows you to move the modem away from the RF noise that the computer generates and that can help performance (by moving the computer away).

Here is the released details:

Quote:
Release Details:
Dated: 7/06/2007
Software Version: 3.09.013
Firmware Version: 145
PRL version: 60608

This version provides the following new functionality since version 03.08.029

* New GPS receiver drawer added
* Support for NMEA applications
* Added "Do not ask again" option to dialogue box in support of Simultaneous Connections
* New PRL 60608 to support additional roaming partners
* Vista 64 bit support added
* Ability to disable device LED for 720 products
* Added new web links for Sprint Speed Test and Digital Lounge
* New S620 FW 171 to fix certain Roaming issues

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Is the U720 really discontinued? Reply with quote

jackrodgers wrote:
Joel Schmidt wrote:
I just spoke to 4 people at Sprint. I was originally calling because my second U720 is starting to bend at the usb connector and causing erratic connections, just like my first one did.


I use the cable rather than plug the device directly into a port to avoid the problem you state. The cable also acts as an additional antenna according to some.


That is not an option for me as I tend to do a lot of online work while carrying my MacBook Pro. And I will not velcro or otherwise adhere the modem to the case of my system as recommended by the Store Manager of my local Sprint Store/Service Center.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, unless you mean that you work while actually walking down the sidewalk or something like that, when you actually sit down and open your laptop the U720 will simply lay next to your laptop while plugged in via the cable IF you choose to use the cable. Thus keeping it a little ways away from the laptop and the RF noise Michael mentioned. I do the same as jack suggested. Keeps all the pressure of the bulky U720 off of my USB ports on my laptop.

I can't imagine needing to velcro it to the case.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does that two USB port cable REALLY make a difference or does it perform the same as when you just use a regular single port extension cable? I haven't really noticed... just curious.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To replay something I posted along time ago:

Signal strength can be reduced by a household object between your card and the tower. I was staying at a motel. There was a motel style refrigerator next to the desk. I placed the U720 connected via the Y cable on the desk next to the refrigerator and my signal was very weak. Then I placed it on top of the refrigerator and walah the signal strength maximized itself. So I assume the refrigerator was between me and the tower.

Thus there may be hot spots and cold spots inside for signal strength.

If you use a router, try moving it to different locations.

It would be nice if there was some very inexpensive device that would point to the tower locations much like a compass needle points to North (or south for those who think outside the box). Of course there are those maps.
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