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bkhaynes1
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:10 am    Post subject: Verizon vs Sprint- which is best?

I would like to know which service, Verizon or Sprint, will best allow me to maintain a connection. Also, we are full-time RV'ers and travel constantly. I currently have Verizon with a PC5750. I am having issues using VPN to my company. The connection will stay approximately 2 minutes and then I am totally disconnected from VPN and my card connection. I also have a second laptop with an express card slot. I want to set up a wireless G router to share the connection. I really hate to pay the $175 to terminate my Verizon contract but am willing to do so if Sprint will provide better service and coverage. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
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xenophon
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:48 am    Post subject:

Some VPN software needs to use UDP mode rather than TCP mode. You may not have control of it. I've used a couple VPN apps on Sprint - Nortel and Juniper work well

Sprint/Verizon are now pretty much equal with native coverage but Sprint can roam on Alltel EVDO, which has huge rural coverage in some states, so Sprint ultimately wins on coverage - may make a difference for an RVer.

Verizon has a 5GB/month limit while Sprint is truly unlimited, but Verizon support is acceptable while Sprint support is often awful. If you go with Sprint, buy your card from this site as they provide real support. And you'll get better support than VZW too.

Sprint gives more granular control, like changing home agent, forcing roam and EVDO. I think you might be able to force EVDO on Verizon now.

Sprint has WiMAX coming (2-3 times faster than EVDO) that will combine with EVDO, but for an RVer, that may not matter.

Verizon is fine if you don't hit the limit and need better support (and Mac support). Sprint is broader, more flexible with notably poorer support but buying card from this site reduces the risk.


On performance , see evdomaps.com results.
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Bigdave
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:22 am    Post subject:

Good post xenophon. Very clear, concise, and unbiased. This should be a sticky along the threads that pop up every couple of weeks about "which card should I buy?" Just my 2 pennies worth.
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bkhaynes1
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject:

xenophon,
Thank you so very much for your response. Here is a hitch. Having dealt with Verizon, I wound up going directly to Sprint. I have purchase the PX-500 and a linksys 3g router. Just for kickers, I have upgraded my firmware to 2.009 and tried my Verizon PC5750. I cannot get my XP SP2 to connect to the wireless, but my husband, who is running VISTA can. I have been on live chat with Linksys to no avail. I am at my wits end. What is REALLY need is something that works. Twisted Evil
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xenophon
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:43 am    Post subject:

Here are broadbandreports reviews from users...

Verizon - 73% satisfaction currently
http://www.dslreports.com/comment/2788/59206


Sprint - 84% satisfaction
http://www.dslreports.com/comments/2829

BBR gives Sprint a gold award and Verizon a bronze. I'm surprised to see that Sprint support is actually ranking higher than VZW. I didn't think that could be possible. Very Happy
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deparson
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:03 am    Post subject:

Some questions...

1. Can your computer connect to other wireless routers correctly?

2. Can your computer connect when plugged into the router directly using a cable?

3. What exactly happens when you try to connect?
a. Can you see the router in your list of wireless networks?
b. When you 'connect' does your computer connect? If not, do you have any security enabled on the wireless side of the router?
c. If you connect what IP address are you given and is that correct per your router's setup?
d. If you have an IP address can you PING any sites either by domain name or IP address?

bkhaynes1 wrote:
xenophon,
Thank you so very much for your response. Here is a hitch. Having dealt with Verizon, I wound up going directly to Sprint. I have purchase the PX-500 and a linksys 3g router. Just for kickers, I have upgraded my firmware to 2.009 and tried my Verizon PC5750. I cannot get my XP SP2 to connect to the wireless, but my husband, who is running VISTA can. I have been on live chat with Linksys to no avail. I am at my wits end. What is REALLY need is something that works. Twisted Evil
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jackrodgers
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:07 pm    Post subject:

bkhaynes1 wrote:
xenophon,
Thank you so very much for your response. Here is a hitch. Having dealt with Verizon, I wound up going directly to Sprint. I have purchase the PX-500 and a linksys 3g router. Just for kickers, I have upgraded my firmware to 2.009 and tried my Verizon PC5750. I cannot get my XP SP2 to connect to the wireless, but my husband, who is running VISTA can. I have been on live chat with Linksys to no avail. I am at my wits end. What is REALLY need is something that works. Twisted Evil


If your husband's Vista can connect it works.

That leaves the question of what is not correct in the wireless setup on your XP, not (necessarily) that there is something wrong with the router. Find someone to help you with the setup on your computer under XP.
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pairodox
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: will Verizon hardware work on the Sprint network

Quote:
but buying card from this site reduces the risk


If you already have a Verizon USB727 can it be used or reconfigured to be used with Sprint?
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xchpstang
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Joined: 16 Jun 2005
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Location: Turlock, CA

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject:

The Verizon card can't be used on Sprint yet. I'm sure it's coming as all the major carriers have committed to an "open" network. I wouldn't be making any purchases based on that though as for all intents and purposes those plans are up in the air.
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firedude
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:44 pm    Post subject:

Being a full-time RV'er the last 5 years I have to agree with many points mentioned above in favor of Sprint. After 5 years and some similar headaches you describe I switched to Sprint and for myself couldn't be happier. with the new change coming the first part of March with Verizon I am glad I just did it.

you might want to take a look at this thread http://www.evdoforums.com/thread8417.html

so far I have been impressed with Sprints evdo service. Everything worked right out of the box. I also would as a suggestion go through the 3G Store if you decided to change. It was a painless effort for me and you get 125% after sales support as well. I did do a bit of homework comparing coverage areas too before switching.

Also you might want to look at the Cradle Point CtR350 router being an RV'er. It really fits my needs and will be ordering one from 3G next week. Very small and leaves a super small foot print something us RV'ers like and it packs everything the larger routers have to offer. My kids have bought the KR1 from me. (No eBay Alex lol!). Here's a link to the CTR350 from the folks at 3G Store (owners of this forum)...

http://3gstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=35&products_id=610

All in all for me I am very happy with Sprint and so far no problems. My average dl speeds are 1.12 MB and higher. I've not so far had a lower the 1.1 MB dl speed. With Verizon making some major changes, I'd give Sprint a look over if it's within your means. As far as I can find also Sprint has no cap on Bandwidth and they are ok with routers where I believe Verizon is not, In fact Sprint will even sell you a router. best of luck either way! Just my humble opinion. Smile

Incidentally I went with the Sprint U727 and extremely happy with it. When I changed I went through the 3G Store and from the time I ordered to the time I was on line was 3 days, only because I ordered late in the day on a Thursday!

Tony
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CA Traveler
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Sprint vs Verizon Data Coverage in Southern Oregon

I need to make a decision in a few days concerning which service to use. I will be traveling up the West coast and I need good coverage for a new position as a HOA webmaster. Reviewing the coverage maps for southern Oregon coast (for example) the Sprint map shows data roaming (light grey) coverage.

Does the data roaming map indeed represent very limited data rate like 50Kbits/sec? Especially as compared to the Verizon map which shows the blue Broadband & V Cast coverage.

Additionallly from what I can gather to date.
1. Sprint is unlimited data transfer while Verizon has a very high charge for more than 5GB.
2. Sprint salesman says they will be releasing Rev A in July with increased bandwidth.
3. DW will want to use her PC as well. With either service can we do that with the built in WiFi (ie PC to PC), LAN cable or router?
4. We'll be in Vancouver Island and Sprint cost appears high and based on the amount of data transferred for this area. But Verizon has coverage for $20 for one month which is all I need.

Right now coverage is my main concern but since I'm new to this all input is welcome.

I will also need a second cell phone for this trip and it could be either Sprint or Verizon. This will be in addition to DW's Verizon cell phone. Comments on this also appreciated but I think my main focus should be on the data card.

I also posted this on rv.net.
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Gadget
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Joined: 26 Jun 2008
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Location: Virginia

PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject:

Sprint also caps at 5gb a month now - with new data plans. That clenched it for me. I can't get a decent Sprint signal at my house, and their recent maps actually reflect this fact. Verizon's network is bigger. and it covers more areas where I would like coverage.
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