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vbguy33
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:40 am    Post subject: Router... Reply with quote

Could you hook up a wireless router to the computer that has the EDVO card? and have the other laptops connect to that router?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:24 pm    Post subject: Any way to secure the connectio? Reply with quote

I am sharing my Verizon Broadband wireless connection via WiFi to my MacBookPro. I've had to set the PC wifi card as an adhoc network, with an open network and disable encryption. Everytime I have setup WEP on the PC WiFi card it hasn't allowed me to actually get an IP on the mac. I am able to connect to the SSID of the PC (from my Mac) but I don't get seeded an IP address.

Any suggestions?? I wanna share my connection, but not with everyone! Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try this:

Setup ICS and ad-hoc sharing on the Windows PC... enable WEP and use a hex key, not a simple password. On the Macbook Pro, use a dollar-sign ('$') in front of the hex WEP key as you are entering it to join the Ad-Hoc network served up on the Windows PC.

WPA-PSK may work as well (even with a simple password or hash string) as it is a newer protocol and the differences beween Microsoft's and Apple's protocol adoptions may mesh... (I have yet to make any ad-hoc Win-Mac WPS-PSK connections).

Note:
When using WPA-PSK, newer Apples that have AirPort Extreme cards will allow for 64 character WPA-PSK hex strings *without* the need of a '$' to indicate hex. They just 'know' that if you enter a 64 character hex key, it is to be treated as hex. Anything 63 characters or lower is treated as a 'password' regardless of whether it is hex or not. Aiport Extreme Base stations do the same thing.

Older Mac AirPort cards need the preceeding '$' even for the 64 character hex key I beleive (try it... its been awhile).

Many other cheap Wi-Fi access points don't recognize 64 character hex strings... just simple or complex text strings up to 63 characters.

For more detail on WEP hex keys, see this thread: http://www.evdoforums.com/about1546.html


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:05 pm    Post subject: ICS on XP Pro with sp2 and Venturi Conflict Reply with quote

I recently purchased a KPC650 and Verizon service. It worked well and I wanted to share the connection. I configured ICS on my laptop and shared the EVDO dialup connection and it worked, but every time I rebooted the laptop that shared the connection, I could no longer connect to the Internet from my other PCs through the ICS connection. I deleted and recreated the shared connection and it worked fine until I rebooted the laptop with the shared connection. I thought perhaps my laptop had a wierd incompatibility, so I installed XP from scratch on a different laptop and prior to installing sp2, I configured ICS. It continued to work even after a reboot. I then installed sp2 and the problem returned. After researching the posts on this forum, I stumbled across one that mentioned how Venturi worked and could sometimes cause issues. I then uninstalled Venturi and ICS has been working fine since, even after many cold boots. I am using 802.11b to connect the ICS pc to the LAN, and there are many great posts on that configuration so I can't add to them, but it is important to methodically eliminate variables, like using a wired NIC instead of wireless while troubledhooting your ICS problems. If anyone has any theories as to the Venturi conflict I experienced with sp2, I'd appreciate the info. BTW, I didn't change any of the post xp2 firewall configurations and allowed Windows to set that up automatically. I turned on firewall logging and can see plenty of dropped packets. I'm slowly warming to XP's firewall, I hope it's as robust as other software-based ones.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: WORKS Reply with quote

Scott: Thanks for the tips, that did the trick, enable WEP on the PC, enter a HEX string for password, on the Mac enter $ in front of the WEP key and voila, I am up and running with a modestly secure connection.

Much appreciated. I'll post a complete play by play in the coming days.

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to hear it worked! :]
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: Sharing a Verizon internet connnection between laptops. Reply with quote

Michael,

I'm trying very hard to make this work and have been through the following procedure several times over the last several weeks. You can read the story of my saga here:
Arrow http://community.compuserve.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=messages&tsn=1&tid=190759&webtag=ws-winprohelp I don't think I want to repost the whole thing verbabtum. You can see that nobody on that forum replied to me at all so far. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated. Sad


Michael wrote:
Thanks to Budd Walls for providing these detailed steps for sharing his EVDO Card via WiFi to other 2 other laptops. Please note these directions are for the AirCard 580, but CAN be used for any EVDO Card.

Quote:
Verizon Sierra Wireless AirCard 580
Verizon BroadbandAccess and NationalAccess

Dell Inspiron 6000 WiFi Setup for Windows XP for sharing Verizon NationalAccess connection.

First, make sure you disconnect any WiFi connections you may currently have.
You will need to have two or more laptops that are WiFi capable.
I used the Verizon Sierra AirCard 580 (I think this should work with any Verizon card.)

1. Install Verizon software

-Install Verizon NationalAccess software.
-Open VZAccess Manager and start NationalAccess (make sure it can authenticate and connect)

2. Share the Verizon NationalAccess connection.

-Go to Start->Connect To->Show all connections
-Right click on NationalAccess-BroadbandAccess and select Properties
-Click Advanced Tab
-Under Internet Connection Sharing, click Allow other network users to connect through this computer's...
-In the Home networking connection drop-down select: Wireless Network Connection. (Note this will change the
Wireless Network Connection IP settings to a static address. Not sure why, but don't change it back to DHCP.)
-Close settings and go back to the VZAccess Manger. Close connection and re-connect.

3. Setup a peer-to-peer wireless WiFi network.

-Go to Start->Connect To->Show all connections
-Right click on Wireless Network Connection and select Properties
-Click the Wireless Networks tab.
-In the Preferred networks box, click the Add button.
-Enter a SSID name: NAnet or whatever you want.
-Set Data encryption to: Disable
-Make sure you click the box at the bottom for: This is a computer-to-computer (ad-hoc).... (This allows other
WiFi computers to see the Wireless network.)
-Click the OK button to save everything.
-Close everything down and restart the computer.
-When the system comes up give it a while and you will see the wireless network trying to connect to the
peer-to-peer network you created. The first time it will take a while, so be patient.

4. Setup remote laptop to connect to your peer-to-peer WiFi network.

Again, make sure you do are not connected to any WiFi networks. If so, disconnect them before continuing.

- Start the second laptop. XP should see the new peer-to-peer WiFi network and should try to connect to it.
It will take a while to connect and acquire the network address. Don't try to help XP, this seems to take awhile.
Wait till XP says the wireless network is now connected.

- Go to My Computer->My Network Places->View Network connections.
- At the top of the list you should see Internet Gateway: NationalAccess-BroadbandAccess...
(This is the share connection from the host laptop.)
- If the Internet Gateway shared connection is not shown, you need to setup up a home or small office network.
To setup the network:
- Click the: Setup a home or small office network option. Click the next button.
- XP may show disconnected hardware, if so, click the Ignore disconnected network hardware box.
- XP should see the shared connection to the host system. Don't change XP recommendation to use this connection.
- Click next till finished.
- Now you should see the Internet Gateway icon for NationalAccess-BroadbandAccess...
- Start Internet Explorer and you should be able to browse the network via the shared connection.

Notes:

- Seems like Venturi compression is not used when browsing the net from shared laptops. I think VZAccess
Manager is by-passed when accessing from a remote system and Venturi is not used.

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drmrw
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't get my Sierra 595U to connect either by using my wife's notebook as a peer to peer setup. What was wierd was that she has AOL installed. There is a little AOL icon in the systray that shows there is connectvity. When you open IE, you get squat! However when you open AOL you get CONNECTIVITY and THEN AS LONG AS AOL IS ACTIVE, Internet explorer works perfectly! It's like AOL is stealing the connection and then only passing it along to IE when it (AOL) is already connected. In fact if you look under internet options in IE under the connections tab, there is no configured internet connection at all, but when AOL is running you see a dialup connection that reflects the shared connection of my EVDO notebook. Weird....It does work however! Normally, Even if AOL is not launched, you can open IE and browse, but when connected through my notebook using EVDO, IE connectivity is suddenly controlled by AOL connectivity....Anyhow, I also successfuly shared the EVDO connection through my ethernet port on the notebook, and into my linksys wireless router and then browsed the web wirelessly on my wife's machine through the linksys. I'm surprised that worked too! Another tip i read on another site when doing wireless peer to peer is to force the wireless card to do ONLY do ad-hoc (comp to comp) connections under the wireless networks tab and then hitting the advanced button at the bottom of that tab. Dunno if that made a big diff or not. Hope this info helps someone who has AOL installed on their machine!
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bridgetteh
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I followed the steps indicated below, all steps worked through ok. the host laptop, a thinkpad, with a verizon/audiovox pc5740 air card. the remote laptop, a dell d620, recognized the peer to peer connection but could not browse internet on remote laptop. any clues ?

Michael wrote:
Thanks to Budd Walls for providing these detailed steps for sharing his EVDO Card via WiFi to other 2 other laptops. Please note these directions are for the AirCard 580, but CAN be used for any EVDO Card.

Quote:
Verizon Sierra Wireless AirCard 580
Verizon BroadbandAccess and NationalAccess

Dell Inspiron 6000 WiFi Setup for Windows XP for sharing Verizon NationalAccess connection.

First, make sure you disconnect any WiFi connections you may currently have.
You will need to have two or more laptops that are WiFi capable.
I used the Verizon Sierra AirCard 580 (I think this should work with any Verizon card.)

1. Install Verizon software

-Install Verizon NationalAccess software.
-Open VZAccess Manager and start NationalAccess (make sure it can authenticate and connect)

2. Share the Verizon NationalAccess connection.

-Go to Start->Connect To->Show all connections
-Right click on NationalAccess-BroadbandAccess and select Properties
-Click Advanced Tab
-Under Internet Connection Sharing, click Allow other network users to connect through this computer's...
-In the Home networking connection drop-down select: Wireless Network Connection. (Note this will change the
Wireless Network Connection IP settings to a static address. Not sure why, but don't change it back to DHCP.)
-Close settings and go back to the VZAccess Manger. Close connection and re-connect.

3. Setup a peer-to-peer wireless WiFi network.

-Go to Start->Connect To->Show all connections
-Right click on Wireless Network Connection and select Properties
-Click the Wireless Networks tab.
-In the Preferred networks box, click the Add button.
-Enter a SSID name: NAnet or whatever you want.
-Set Data encryption to: Disable
-Make sure you click the box at the bottom for: This is a computer-to-computer (ad-hoc).... (This allows other
WiFi computers to see the Wireless network.)
-Click the OK button to save everything.
-Close everything down and restart the computer.
-When the system comes up give it a while and you will see the wireless network trying to connect to the
peer-to-peer network you created. The first time it will take a while, so be patient.

4. Setup remote laptop to connect to your peer-to-peer WiFi network.

Again, make sure you do are not connected to any WiFi networks. If so, disconnect them before continuing.

- Start the second laptop. XP should see the new peer-to-peer WiFi network and should try to connect to it.
It will take a while to connect and acquire the network address. Don't try to help XP, this seems to take awhile.
Wait till XP says the wireless network is now connected.

- Go to My Computer->My Network Places->View Network connections.
- At the top of the list you should see Internet Gateway: NationalAccess-BroadbandAccess...
(This is the share connection from the host laptop.)
- If the Internet Gateway shared connection is not shown, you need to setup up a home or small office network.
To setup the network:
- Click the: Setup a home or small office network option. Click the next button.
- XP may show disconnected hardware, if so, click the Ignore disconnected network hardware box.
- XP should see the shared connection to the host system. Don't change XP recommendation to use this connection.
- Click next till finished.
- Now you should see the Internet Gateway icon for NationalAccess-BroadbandAccess...
- Start Internet Explorer and you should be able to browse the network via the shared connection.

Notes:

- Seems like Venturi compression is not used when browsing the net from shared laptops. I think VZAccess
Manager is by-passed when accessing from a remote system and Venturi is not used.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Router... Reply with quote

vbguy33 wrote:
Could you hook up a wireless router to the computer that has the EDVO card? and have the other laptops connect to that router?


Yes...

I helped a 10 person office survive for 2 weeks while they waited for their permantent internet connection to be installed.

I gave them an old laptop with a PX-500 card, and a buffalo router connected into the laptop's . The router was wired to their internal lan and provided internet access to all the desktops and the wireless handled the laptops.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a tip:

Always go into the TCP IP Properties of your wireless card to make sure there is a static IP and mask assigned.

You don't need a gateway or dns assigned. But if you do not have a hard coded IP address, you won't get anywhere.

Your laptop has to be the DHCP server to the other machines, so it can't be trying to look up the IP address from a DHCP itself on the same wireless connection.

When you connect to your laptop, your other PC's should have an IP address similar to the one with the wireless broadband card.

Why do you need to check this every time? Ask Bill Gates. It's in the DNA of Microsoft products to be flakey.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would you share internet with USB modem? my pc recognize it as a dailup modem.

What im trying to do is share my pc's internet with my PSP and PS3 using wifi. both psp and the ps3 are capable of using wifi just so you know. but everytime i create a wireless network, theres no internet available. i mean the wireless network is there, but no internet connect sharing.

If anyone has an answer to this, act like i dont know network terminalogy, because i dont. I just spent literally a whole day trying to set this up so im familiar with setting up a network, if that makes sense. for an example, lets say i need to disable the DCHP server on my wireless router, oh yea I can do this. but do i know what it means? no , lol. just tryin to use common sense to get by. sry if i sound dumb Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi, not sure if checking for IP address was a suggestion for me, but i still am unable to share Verizon EVDO Audiovox PC5740 connection. Both laptops run Windows XP PRO with SP2

Host laptop: Thinkpad has Verizon PC5740 card in it, has builtin wifi
Remote laptop: Dell D620 with built in wifi

here are settings in Windows XP PRO > Network Connections >

well i thought there was a way to post images (*.jpg) files to this borard) , if someone knows how plz, advise

Verizon Broadband Access shows up under dialup (is it supposed to be listed as dialup)?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it's normal for Verizon (and Sprint too) EVDO connection to show up under dialup. When you install the software, the installation (usually) also installs a Windows DUN script as well. You can use the EVDO device just like any other modem. You do not have to to use the Verizon or Sprint Connection Manager. There are certain advantages as well as some disadvantages to using the DUN script to connect instead of the Verizon (or Sprint) software.

You can post images but the image file needs to be hosted on a web server somewhere. There are some free sites that can do this and are simple to use. Here's one for instance:

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/
and another:
http://imageshack.us/

HTH
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For GTO_VR4

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How would you share internet with USB modem? my pc recognize it as a dailup modem.


You need to read up on using Windows ICS (Internet Connection Sharing). There are tutorials on the internet written much better than I can can step you through here. That should at least get you started and then you can ask specific questions back here if you still have problems.

Good luck.
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