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Mephis EVDO User
Joined: 04 Feb 2007 Posts: 79
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: Why do I have to reboot the WRT54G3G-ST 2-3 times a day? |
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| swim_08 wrote: | I'm using a Linksys WRT54G3G-ST and a PC5740 card from sprint
Several times a day (every morning and random other times) I have to reboot the router. All i do is unplug it and wait a little then plug it back in. I was browsing the forums yesterday and found that the new firmware might solve the problem so I downloaded 2.00.9 and upgraded the router.
I'm still having this reboot problem. Is this something that just has to happen or can I change a setting somewhere that will make it stay up 24/7?
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Don't unplug it, you're just wasting time.
Type 192.168.1.1 into your address bar, then when prompted for a password enter your password for your router. (The password is "admin" if you have not made one.)
From there go to the administration options, then diagnostic, and click reboot.
Much faster and easier than having to unplug it.
As to why? In my experence linksys doesn't work with DHCP all that well. Which means your router might hold onto an IP longer than it should.
Might look up a guide on setting up your MTU setting. I went through all the processes and discovered I take a hit in performance if I go above 970 on my MTU. It's not just some random number, it's a limit on how large a packet can be and still be sent. If it's too large you'll time out a lot on uploads and have other strange issues.
Just run a large ping test (www.yahoo.com -n 10 -l <enter value here>) And keep raising the value until you have a packet time out, then step it back down to where it stays consistant and set your MTU size at that. _________________ Merlin S720 |
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tttaff EVDO Newbie
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 6
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:29 am Post subject: |
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I know about rebooting the router through the browser interface, but often that just does not work and actually unplugging the router is the only way.
I have noticed that I have to reboot very infrequently now since I started unplugging the router at night when I'm done. I also shut down my computer each night, then in the morning reboot the computer and then, when it's completely up and running, plug back in the router. Since I've started doing that each night, I am good to go all day without a reboot. |
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jackrodgers EVDO Addict
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 1127
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:05 am Post subject: |
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The last post may have a clue in it. Most of the prior posts say they rebooted the router or turned it off, etc. and still had problems. None said that they shut down the computer.
Based on my experience with a router and Comcast, the proper method was to shute EVERYTHING off, wait a minute or two then turn on the modem, wait a bit, then the router, wait a bit, then each computer.
So add shut down the computer and turn off the Linksys and wait a bit. then turn on the router and wait a bit and then turn on the computer.
My ancient experience with modems indicated they could store bad init strings and corruption in memory and the modem itself had to be turned off to clear this out. Perhaps the computers are also storing a corrupted bit of data for the modem/router.
This doesn't deal with the issue of why it is shutting down but may be a better way to recover. THe broswer method may also be better. |
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furgus EVDO Newbie
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:38 am Post subject: |
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I think I've finally found my problem w/my router & the PX-500. It was basically a problem w/the Wifi piece of the Linksys and not the broadband card. This is what I noticed...
I would have intermittent problems w/the internet even after rebooting the router. Going to the management console of the router always worked (wirelessly), but internet wouldn't sometimes. Well I finally plugged a network cable from my laptop to the router and bingo the internet worked (w/o reboot). I also notice alot of other people around my home running wifi. So I'm guessing that my router and the other routers are interfering w/each other. I basically changed 2 setting. I enable broadcasting SSID (which I previously disabled) and I changed my channel to 8 versus the default 6. So far I've been running fine without any required reboots of the router.
Also if anyone want to automate the rebooting of the router, you can use a program like curl to simulate clicking the reboot button on a dos command line and schedule it. (Logging in to the GUI and clicking the reboot button is the only other way I know of doing it). I've got this command in a batch file.
curl.exe -u "admin:passwd" -d "submit_button=Diagnostics&change_action=&action=Reboot&wait_time=28" 192.168.1.1/apply.cgi |
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mikesus EVDO Newbie
Joined: 02 Jun 2007 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: Same problem |
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I think I found something that fixes the reboot issues...
I was running into the same thing, everything would look like it was passing traffic, but it wasn't.
Well on a whim, I disabled the wireless from the 3g3 and connected a wrt54g with DD-WRT firmware. SUPRISE! No reboots! So, I am guessing that Linksys did something bad in this version of the firmware to the point that the wireless loses its mind enough to no longer connect to the net.
I am going to play with this a bit more next week, but it sure is interesting.
Didn't someone say that they had a version of DD-WRT for the 3g3? |
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BillCh EVDO Fledgling
Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 16
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Furgus,
I would love to use curl the way you explained it. I just don't know how to use your command line in a batch file?
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curl.exe -u "admin:passwd" -d "submit_button=Diagnostics&change_action=&action=Reboot&wait_time=28" 192.168.1.1/apply.cgi |
I guess that at ... -u "admin:passwd" ... I am supposed to enter my login data, but how do I enter it as the name has to remain blank at the Linksys router? Like ... -u ":mypassword" ...?
And as I have changed the routers IP I assume I have to change that as well in the command line, right?
I was trying to modify your command line but I could not get it to work with my router. I am using the latest Firmware. Can there be differences between the exact required command lines, like if we have different router models or firmwares? Btw, how did you know what to enter? Do you also have a shortcut to enter the router API in a browser window and jump the a certain site?
Thanks!
Btw, I regret having bought this router and I will look for another solution, as it is redicolus having such a junk product which looses the Internet connection but still reports "connected" and "excellent" connection (while having the card in a notebook works flawlessly). This is a shame for Linksys and for Cisco, its parent company. |
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BillCh EVDO Fledgling
Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 16
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Beside my specific question above. Has anybody who had this loosing Internet connecton with the Linksys actually solved that issue?
I was on the helpline with Linksys twice and did as they recommended: Latest firmware (again), 30 sec reset + 10 sec power off, and reduced MTU to 1400. Did not work. After a couple of minutes - sometimes more, soemtimes less - I loose Internet connection despite the fact that the router still reports "connected" and connection as "excellent", the blue Internet LED is still on and the Sprint card (S720) is still falshing green. Only a reboot helps, for another couple of minutes.
I guess I have to throw that Linksys away and accept that is simply a ridiculously immature product if one looks for a steady Internet connetcion. Has anybody any practical experience with the K1 router or any other working router for a S720 card? I am also thinking of (mis-) using one of my notebooks as a permanent "Ineternet modem" as the connection seems to be stable there - anyone done this?
Thanks! |
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Amrathe EVDO Fledgling
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 15
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| BillCh wrote: | Beside my specific question above. Has anybody who had this loosing Internet connecton with the Linksys actually solved that issue?
Thanks! |
Not only have I not solved the disconnect issue on Linksys, I have the same exact issues with my IPCOP build that replaced my Dinkcyst.
I have noticed some odd patterns now that I have full console access to the underlying OS. From what I can see, when the connection drops (but still shows it is connected) 80% of the time the system has dropped it's sprint issued hostname. Sometimes it will get a new hostname (and the connection will resume) but most of the time it needs a disconnect and reconnect before a hostname comes back.
Could it be an issue with the sprint DHCP lease expiring or not properly managing the handoff to a new IP/hostname?
I figure I will launch putty next time I am experiencing the issue and see if I can renew the lease manually and restore service without reconnecting. |
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Ka3ak EVDO Newbie
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Since my post of Apr 9, 2007 under this topic, detailing my problem with losing Internet connectivity, the problem is gone.
After about a month of having the stated problem, it went away. I don't have to reboot the router anymore. I haven't changed any hardware, settings, or anything at all. I never called Sprint to report the problem. It just went away. Sure hope things stay this way!
So, I believe the cause must have been on Sprint's end and they did something which fixed things. |
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glacierjima EVDO Heavy User
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 113 Location: North. Kentucky
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| it's odd...I've had my router since Feb and outside of the upload issue, I haven't had any problems. I took the router to vegas with me about 10 days ago, and had to reboot the darn thing at least once a day. I've never had that problem at all here, I just totally loose internet connection, even though the router said I was still connected, I tried disconnecting and re-connecting..no difference. |
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Fox McCloud EVDO Junkie
Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Posts: 595
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| glacierjima wrote: | | it's odd...I've had my router since Feb and outside of the upload issue, I haven't had any problems. I took the router to vegas with me about 10 days ago, and had to reboot the darn thing at least once a day. I've never had that problem at all here, I just totally loose internet connection, even though the router said I was still connected, I tried disconnecting and re-connecting..no difference. |
My router was disconnecting and reconnecting a lot...then it stopped.
Now my issue (aside from the universal upload issue) is that the radio unit acts like it's going out; with WiFi I'll get 700-1250k down (fluctuates a LOT), with wired I get 1270k consistently.
I would like to go wired anyway, but I just don't like having a faulty router; besides, my laptop and Wii both use WiFi, and it's inconvenient to be tethered to the router with a laptop...(once online games for the Wii come out, it'll get hard-wired too). |
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willix EVDO Newbie
Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 2 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: Router Disconnects |
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I have a PX500 card and also noticed that it would cut out without the blue light on the wrt54g3g-st going out. This happened several times during the day, and I would have to push the "Data Card" button once to turn off the blue light and then once again for the card to log in again. This worked and I had internet access again. My suspicion was that the connection to the Sprint network timed out after inactivity, regardless of what the routed indicated. To test this I started to have my Outlook email app check for new mail more often. Originally it was checking every 10 minutes. I changed it to four minutes and that did the trick. When I came into the office this morning, the connection was still active and working. ( I leave my system on 24/7).
Please someone else try this approach of creating activity on the connection to keep it from disconnecting and let me know how it works!! |
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pwojciec EVDO Newbie
Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 2
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I'm having the exact same problems as all of you with the Linksys WRT54G3G-ST and Merlin S720 card on Sprint.
First two weeks were heaven, I think I left it all running pretty much 24/7. Last week, I may have had to reboot the router once a day. Now, it's pretty much unstable...it might work fine for an hour or two, or lose connectivity every 15 minutes and require a reboot.
This needs to get solved ASAP. Following along on what's been said here, I lowered the MTU value to 996 and set my Outlook to check email every 4 minutes. Will keep you updated.
The fact that the problem doesn't onset immediately with a new router but takes a week or two must be a key or informative piece of the puzzle. |
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Fox McCloud EVDO Junkie
Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Posts: 595
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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you may want to take your broadband card out and leave it in your laptop for several hours (let it connect) so that it can get any updates it may need.
I was experiencing the same problems as you guys, and this appeared to solve the issue....then too, I completely reset the router (as in wiped its setting and re-entered it).
My problem, right now, is that I suspect the radio unit is going out; before all the WiFi channels allowed me to have good download speeds; not only the high channels let me; either way, a replacement is on the way; hopefully this will resolve this issue.
I can't wait until new firmware comes out for this thing; hopefully the upload and stability issues will be solved. |
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pwojciec EVDO Newbie
Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I'm still having the same problems today, so neither mucking with the MTU setting or having Outlook maintain a constant connection seem to have solved the problem.
Turning everything off overnight did seem to improve performance for the first four to six hours, but connectivity (er, lack thereof) returned to normal status ante quo.
Removed my S720 card from the Linksys router and ran it in my laptop. Haven't seen any connectivity issues in the last few hours, so it definitely appears connected to the interface b/w the PCMCIA card and the router.
I made a couple changes since I the card in the laptop. I made the card connect to EVDO rev A only, no 1xRTT since I'm in a good signal area (Chicago). Also checked for updates, none, of course.
Well, I'm going to move the card back to the router tonight and see if anything improves. There are enough people with this problem that Sprint/Novatel/Linksys should get their teams together and solve this major issue once and for all. |
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