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Michael
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:30 pm    Post subject: Robert Kim

I was taught if you do not have anything good to say, you shouldn't say anything, but I cannot any longer.

<b>Robert Kim</b> of E V D O - C O V E R A G E . C O M or TelePotence or zazzah or imacs2369 or wimax-coverage or hsdpa-coverage

He is the reason why I started EVDOinfo.com. There were a lot of wild EVDO claims on his web site, stuff that was just plain lies.

On his web site, he claims if you purchase an EVDO card from him, you can get 500K on the 1xRTT (NationalAccess). 1xRTT has a limit of 144K, it is impossible to get 500K (lots more info here).

On his web site, he claims that <b>his cards</b> are better than stock cards and can go faster (2000K - 3000K). EVDO has a maximum burst of 2400K roughly), the fastest I have ever seen is 1926K. He is using Venturi software and benchmarking at Toast.net, which will give you misleading facts (lots more info here).

<b>Robert Kim</b> is mostly good at over charging and over promising.

We have received MANY emails from people who have not received the service that he promises on his web site. We try to help and give advice, but mostly we feel sorry for them.

A few months ago, <b>Robert Kim</b> was fired from his Verizon dealer, why? There were receiving too many complaints. He got hooked up with another Verizon master agent, lets see how long that lasts.

Robert Kim starting selling a booster antenna last year for $259, here is what is great about the internet, you can see an archive at
WayBackMachine). We were approached by the antenna manufacturer, they were not happy with him, and asked us to sell the antenna for them. We agreed and started Booster-Antenna.com. Since, we started selling the booster antenna, <b>Robert Kim</b> lowered his price to $69 (wow, what a discount from $259), but he still charges you $25 - $60 for shipping. Now, he sells the Lightening Rod EVDO antenna. We tried it (we are always looking for the best antenna), it didn't do as good a job as the regular booster antenna.

The icing on the cake was today, we were talking with a customer, who asked to talk to <b>Robert Kim</b> and told us they bought one of our Lighten Rod antennas and it didn't work. Well, of course, they didn't buy that from us, there were mixed up. After talking with them, we figured out what happened. <b>Robert Kim</b> was on the phone with them, and they needed some software that we had to make the Novatel V620 card work with their laptop. We had them register at our site, and download the software, and misrepresented the fact that EVDOinfo was part of HIS web site. This is why the customer called us, they thought we were all the same company, WE ARE NOT. We setup our EVDO web sites to help people, however, they are not associated in any way with Robert Kim and his web sites.

A few months ago, <b>Robert Kim</b> called us and left a voice message and thanked us for not kicking him while he was down (he just got fired from his Verizon store). I wasn't one to do that, however, now he has gone to far.

I am sorry for the long post and sorry if you think it is inappropriate. My goal is NOT to steal customers from Robert Kim, it is only to educate people before they make any purchasing decisions, in fact, I don't even care, if they buy from our sites - just as long as educate themselves and get the most out of EVDO.

So, if you have a Robert Kim story, you would like to share, <b>please</b> post it here.[/url]
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:50 pm    Post subject:

I read Robert Kim's and your (evdo-info and evdoforums) site almost everyday, I am very interested in the technology though I haven't purchased it yet. I think Robert Kim is just someone who is very, very excited about the technology and what it can do for people, but he does step pretty far with his wild claims. If you notice, he uses all his claims with an "-ish" disclaimer. He claims extra battery life on his "SUPERCHARGED" PocketPC device, but if you notice he always throws an "ish!" at the end, like quote from website --( I am happy to save $120 on the antenna that is tested to extend my coverage range by 3 miles ish.)

So far, after watching both sites on a day to day basis, I expect to see some new gimicky product (whether it be phone beads, a $50 leather case for your modem, or some ultra expensive router) on Evdo-Coverage each time I log on, and each time I log onto evdo-info.com, I expect to see new drivers, new card info, prototype products, info I can actually use. Speaking of his $1200 routers, who's going to buy them when the $190 Kyocera KR1 comes out?

Oh, and his website design skills make his site look extra cheesy.

Keep up the good work Michael, and if ya'll ever get some status indicators on a mac rolling for the V620 Card, I just might have to buy one.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:02 pm    Post subject:

Only problem I have would be with the ridiculous kbps numbers he posts.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:12 am    Post subject:

I for one am definitely happy that finally people are openly calling a spade a spade - I had always wondered why someone making such blatantly false claims is not being outed in public. The icing on the cake was when I saw him being referred to as EVDO-expert on some sites Sad

There is only so much you can warn people by telling them the truth - at some stage you also need to point out the lies others are spreading.....
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:27 pm    Post subject:

I just checked Kim's site and forums thoroughly.

*sigh*

I have come to the conclusion that there is a mind-boggling amount of misinformation out there.

That normally would not concern me, but I have a particular sense of "ownership" of EVDO, and it pains me to see folks attempting to make money by playing on fears and ignorance.

No, you cannot boost a CDMA signal beyond the pre-programmed radius set by the Carrier's Engineers. (Well, actually, you CAN boost it, it just won't work.)

No, you cannot "filter out" 1X to make EVDO work better with a special antenna.

There are a number of factors affecting EVDO throughput (and let's not talk of latency and dormancy!). These factors revolve around RF, Network settings, and AT settings (AT is "Access Terminal" in the industry, by the way). Know what your carrier has set for their slot-cycle index. Know what your AT has for the same. Determine if you actually NEED to drop to 1X, if not, buy back up to 20% throughput by disabling hybrid mode.

Oh, there is so much more... There is just no way I can address it here, so I will continue to bop in on a thread where I think I can help.

And thank you, by the way Michael, for keeping this forum as accurate as you can, and thanks everyone for the end-user product updates. There will soon be so many products out there that we will NEED a forum like this to keep track!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:53 pm    Post subject:

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Determine if you actually NEED to drop to 1X, if not, buy back up to 20% throughput by disabling hybrid mode.


Zorog, how do you do that?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:31 am    Post subject:

Robert Kim is one of the biggest crooks ever. He is absolutely awful.
Everything he says is a lie.
Anonymous (because he has threatened me)
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:59 am    Post subject: Re: Robert Kim

Michael wrote:

On his web site, he claims if you purchase an EVDO card from him, you can get 500K on the 1xRTT (NationalAccess). 1xRTT has a limit of 144K, it is impossible to get 500K (lots more info here).

On his web site, he claims that <b>his cards</b> are better than stock cards and can go faster (2000K - 3000K). EVDO has a maximum burst of 2400K roughly), the fastest I have ever seen is 1926K. He is using Venturi software and benchmarking at Toast.net, which will give you misleading facts (lots more info here).


I told him all this and explained why his statements were misleading back in October of '04. He told me that he would have is engineers check it out.

I'm a software developer. I have a lot of experience developing applications for the web. The red flag was when he stated that he could boost the download speeds in excess of the hardware limitations. There is no way to do that without compression. He is actually using ancient trickery Laughing to come up with his claims. Yea, there may be other factors, but the Venturi Client is doing most of the work. He would have people turn off the compression software, run a bandwidth test, apply his ancient trickery, and then turn the compression software back on and run the bandwith test again. This is how he came up with his before and after benchmarks.

He must think that everyone will fall for his wild claims. After he continued with these false claims, I went through my weblog and removed any and all comments that he wrote on my posts about EvDO: (http://codebetter.com/blogs/mark.digiovanni/archive/category/1021.aspx).

After that, he send me an email asking me if I would advertise his site for a fee. I didn't even respond to his email.

I've learned a lot from Evdo-Info. Thanks Michael. I have also learn a lot from people who have weblogs and share their knowledge about whatever it is that they have an expertise in. I try to return the favor whenever I can.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:33 am    Post subject:

I am posting an email (minus email addresses and name) and my response. I am starting to get so many of these, it seemed appropriate to post it to this thread - maybe it will help others too.

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Re: evdo/1x supercharging

I am wonderign if there is any truth to the claims that 1x speeds can be increased, I am in a rural area, and it would be great. The claims I am interested in are as follows:

No there is not any truth to it, that place has a lot of wild claims. I will answer your questions below.

1) Software - A wizard that lets you tune your Windows 2000 or XP kernel to precisely pair and sync with the EVDO and 1xRTT transmissions.

No, 1xRTT speeds are not increased. You may find this link of interest:

http://www.evdoinfo.com/EVDO/Info/EVDO_SuperCharged_5000K_2005022369/


1) Software - A wizard that lets you tune your Windows 2000 or XP kernel to precisely pair and sync with the EVDO and 1xRTT transmissions.

This is called RWIN, more info at the URL below (the software to download is free - doesn't really provide any additional boost.

http://www.evdoforums.com/about38.html


3) Installation process and configuration of a little known and even less understood Verizon Internal HighSpeed Proxy System. This will cut down your "hops to the net" by nearly half in many cases. It does so by creating a direct feed from your computer to a virtual internet cache that is just one gateway away... residing inside the Verizon Network

The Venturi Software compression is automatically installed when you run Verizon's Setup CD. Venturi is a proxy and provides compression and it is FREE, included on your CD. You might want to read more about Venturi here:

http://www.EVDOinfo.com/Tips/PC_5220/Using_Venturi_Compression_Software_2005022363/

BTW, if you are mostly viewing text on the web or downloading pure text files, Venturi can actually help at 1xRTT. If you are downloading a 5mb zip file, you still have to move 5mb over the air, compressing is not going to help (same with JPEG files). Actually, compressing a compressed file, can actually make it take longer.


Is there any truth to this? Does he know something about the Verizon network we don't? I live in this rural area and a boost to 1x would be fantastic, expecially if it's just some TCP/Ip stack settings and a proxy or something.

No, he does not, he just sells to people who don't ask good questions like you!

Thanks in advance for your time in consideration

Feel free to stop by EVDOforums.com, it is a great community, lots of HONEST and ACCURATE information up there. By the way, you may find this thread of interest too:

http://www.evdoforums.com/about474.html

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:15 pm    Post subject:

Woody:

"Hybrid Mode" is a configurable parameter using the carrier's PST (Product Support Tool). This is the software used at your Carrier's store to program your device.

You can either use the PST from your AT (Access Terminal) vendor, such as Kyocera, Sierra Wireless, or Audiovox. OR - you can get your hands on the Qualcomm PST, it will work on almost all of them.

In your case, you should be able to take the card to Verizon, Sprint, ALLTEL, etc, and have them change that parameter for you, it's no big deal. Confirm it works before you leave the store.

You may be able to find a copy of the PST you need somewhere on the web, even though it shouldn't really be posted...

PM if you need help.

By the way - the throughput gains you see will be dependant on the slot-cycle index parameter in your area. The slot cycle index is set both at the AT and the network, and the lowest value will be used. "0" is bad for data, but makes phones work better, "1" or "2" is normal. With Hybrid mode off you will gain about 7% if it was "2", about 14% if it was "1" and about 20% if it was "0".
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:04 pm    Post subject:

By the way; I am hoping that if more of is discuss about ConMen who try to fool innocent people; then this site [and other good sites that just want to help people] will start getting top rate hits in search engines. What has always bothered me is that almost always when me or my friends used to type EVDO; the con sites used to come right at the top. Once we discovered the good sites; we just book marked those. But for any newbie; it is very easy to fall prey to those ConMen Websites making false wild claims because a lot of people just go to the search engine to find stuff.

TagLine: If you can help improve the rankings of the good sites which only aim to help people by supplying accurate information please do so as that is another way to help avoid people falling prey to ConMen websites. Of course the ranking improvement efforts should be legitimate Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:26 pm    Post subject:

temporary wrote:
If you can help improve the rankings of the good sites which only aim to help people by supplying accurate information please do so as that is another way to help avoid people falling prey to ConMen websites.

If anyone wants to put a link to EVDOforums.com or EVDOinfo.com on their web site /blog, that would actually help us out. If you notice the person we are talking about in this thread, has registered 100's of various domains that all spew the same stuff and try to clog up Google (I call this Google Spam) - funny thing, it is currently working for him. A link to our sites, will increase the "search engine popularity" and over time, increase the positioning on our sites.

Funny thing, if you search on http://search.msn.com for EVDO or EV-DO, we come up #1 or #2, so I guess MSN is better than Google - at least from our point of view Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:16 pm    Post subject:

Thanks Zorog! You have pointed me in the right direction. Your post are always very informative and it is appreciated. You are obviously experienced in the cellular world and your sharing of your knowledge will help many.

I'll post my results once I get it switched, to linear instead of hybrid, right?

I may take you up on your offer of help if I get stumped, thank you,
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:37 am    Post subject:

To keep this thread focused and on topic, you should visit the following web site.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:44 am    Post subject:

Michael Wrote:
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To keep this thread focused and on topic, you should visit the following web site.


Michael, that is too funny! I'm going to forward this to some fellow Engineers... Laughing
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