iPhone 3G, or why EDGE Sucks we want EVDO

Michael · Last edited by Michael on Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:47 am; edited 1 time in total

The iPhone looks exciting. It will make a big impact and will replace many cell phones and iPods.

We were very disappointed in Apple's decision to select EDGE, as their "high-speed" internet network.

EDGE will get you 75 - 135 Kbps and that is it.

EVDO Rev A can get you 1000kbps - 2300kbps (yes, we have been seeing those speeds on EVDO Rev A).

So, EDGE isn't very high speed. Which is probably why the first version of hte iPhone will not offer iTunes Store for purchases.

Also, in the initial iPhone demo, WiFi was being used, NOT EDGE. I think if people get this device to replace their phone and iPod (if 8GB is enough), they will be very happy. If they are getting this as an internet browser, they will be very unhappy with the speed (when using EDGE vs. WiFi).

Hey Steve, for iPhone 2.0, add EVDO Rev A and allow tethering over BlueTooth 2.0 - NOW that would be a KILLER device.

More at: iPhone EVDO
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appleboy · EVDO User Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 44

It dose suck that it dosent have EVDO!

squatchie16 · EVDO User Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 28

Might only take a year or so for other carriers to pay an arm and leg to get the iPhone....i'm sure cingular payed out the wazoo to have the exclusive

jackrodgers · EVDO Addict Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 1131

xenophon · EVDO Addict Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 2004

Even worse than no 3G is that it is a closed OS. No opportunity for the tens of thousands of 3rd party apps you can have on WM5 and PalmOS. Apple is becoming more and more a closed, proprietary Sony. Not even an SD slot.

I suppose they could always put out an SDK later, but it appears to be closed for the moment.

Another downside to Cingular is that they still charge $40/month for data service on smartphones compared to $15/month for EVDO on smartphones (Sprint).

deparson · EVDO Junkie Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Posts: 251

The iPhone could only be GSM at launch given the global market for cell phones of this price range. US consumers are used to getting phones for a very low cost (in most cases) while consumers in Europe and Asia are used to paying full price.

Had Apple went with a US centric technology like CDMA they would have locked out most of the world's phone buyers.

Michael · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:26 am Post subject:

Well of course, GSM is for world wide use.

However, look at most of the popular devices, there is a GSM and CDMA version.
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deparson · EVDO Junkie Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Posts: 251

Exactly. I would expect if the iPhone takes off Apple will make a CDMA version of it for the US in time.

I do hope that Apple offers an unlocked and unbranded iPhone and does not fall into the trap of allowing carriers to cripple the phone.

-D

Mackieman · EVDO Junkie Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 491

deparson · EVDO Junkie Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Posts: 251

Exactly. And this is where Apple has the opptunity to change the industry for the better. Carrier crippling of phones is a real issue and very anti-consumer. Do they have the right, sure.

But Apple as the choice to require that its phones be allowed to work as designed meaning that the carrier provides the voice and data transport services and the phone does the rest. I have faith that given the other economic factors Apple has (iTunes for example) they will hold their ground.

We will see.

-D

appleboy · EVDO User Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 44

Was reading on one site that they already have 3 g version in the fcc's hands!

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/macworld2007/rumor-3g-iphone-coming-227850.php

the site..

CDMA version.. soon? unlikely but it will happen, well from what they say!

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/macworld2007/gizmodo-iphone-hands-on-part-deux-why-isnt-it-white-and-other-questions-227575.php

the site..

Something else i found interesting was on engadgetmobile

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/10/cingular-scheduled-to-rebrand-at-atandt-by-iphone-launch/

"Apple can build [their] devices." dose that mean they can make there own CDMA version?

andy6432668 · EVDO User Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 65

you guys using cdma carriers in older for you to switch phones you got to get it apoved by the carrier I use cingular which is gsm if I want to use another cingular phone or unlocked phone all I got to do is take out the sim card of the phone and put it in the phone I want to use no need to call carrier.

Michael · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject:

illiterate · EVDO User Joined: 30 Apr 2005 Posts: 97

I don't get why they didn't put Cingular's 3g service on there. It's still not rev A, but it's head and shoulders over edge.

illiterate · EVDO User Joined: 30 Apr 2005 Posts: 97

Did this insider tell you whether or not it'll be gsm unlockable? Or if the euro version will be? Because I'm gonna get CALLS.