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GPS capability released! Sprint S720 and U720.

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xenophon
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just googled for ms-based and ms-assisted and found this...

What is MS-Assisted mode of operation?
In MS-Assisted mode, the network elements calculate the location of the device. This mode is suitable for one-shot fixes, wherein the location does not need to be updated frequently.

What is MS-Based mode of operation?
In MS-Based mode, the network provides the satellite information to the device, based on a rough estimate of where the device is located, and the device acquires the GPS signals from the satellites and calculates its location. After the initial fix, the device operates like an autonomous GPS receiver, until the satellite information must be refreshed, at which time the device goes back to the network to update the satellite information. MS-Based mode is appropriate for applications that require the device location to be updated rapidly, such as a navigation application.


Can my application use both MS-Assisted and MS-Based mode?
Yes. The mode is application dependent, and different features of the same application can use a different mode. For example, in a navigation application, if the user is looking for the nearest restaurant, the location may be acquired via MS-Assisted mode. However, when driving to the restaurant, the location must be updated regularly, so MS-Based mode is more appropriate.
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kd5xb
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xenophon wrote:
Any GPS gurus know anything about GPS commands? I found these..

Click here

Wonder if these can be sent in the HyperTerminal program?


If I'm reading that page correctly, that's a list of commands to point a Meade telescope to whatever star or planet one is trying to look at. I didn't see anything specifically for GPS there.

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gbateman
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Changing to automatic fixed it for me too, thanks a ton for the tip!
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xenophon
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After more thorough testing while in a car, I was not able to get 'speed' to work properly in Streets and Trips with Premium forced on. Although at times after a connect in Premium mode, the speed indicator in S&T will undim, but only for a few minutes. Navigation works great in S&T but not speed or direction.

I haven't been able to find any particular feature with the Premium forced on. It might be new services coming later, not coded yet.
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xenophon
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How to get Internet connection while in ##GPS mode...

The ##GPS mode is finicky. I don't think it's officially released yet. Getting internet connection to work while in this mode takes very specific exact steps...

- From Connection Manager do ##GPS over Go button
- Don't click Start GPS yet!
- Must wait for Card Status to be 'Ready' (must wait for this)
- Click Establish Data Connection
- Must wait for Card Status to be 'Connected' before turning on GPS. If not, click EDC button again until in 'Connected' state.
- NOW you can click the Start GPS button
- Note the Com Port and then you can use a real navigation program and point to that port

So there is a specific order to use this properly. I don't think the ##GPS mode is in releasable state yet, only the LBS services directly from Connection Manager.
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kd5xb
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xenophon wrote:
- From Connection Manager do ##GPS over Go button
- Don't click Start GPS yet!
- Must wait for Card Status to be 'Ready' (must wait for this)


Well, I edited out my mistake -- this seems to be working fine now!

Thanks,
Earl
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Camarones
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do any of you gurus think you could whip up a vb script that would take the location (geocode) from the COM port and copy it to the clipboard?

I did a bit of googling and found a few things that came close, but nothing quite right....

I don't really have any application in mind, I just though it would be nice to have the capability.


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dimar4hire
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:09 pm    Post subject: Just In case anybody cares Reply with quote

Hey,

Just so you know I already posted a tutorial of how exactly to use the GPS feature with MS Streets and trips and most likely this would work with any other program that uses GPS. Doesn't seem anybody has been reading that post. lol oh well I suppose.
http://www.evdoforums.com/thread4434.html
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ebiz
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xenophon wrote:
- From Connection Manager do ##GPS over Go button
- Don't click Start GPS yet!
- Must wait for Card Status to be 'Ready' (must wait for this)
Another very simple way when connected (even in NDIS mode) is to click on a shortcut to the following link:
"C:\Program Files\Novatel Wireless\Sprint\Sprint PCS Connection Manager\GPSModule.exe". Then just click the Start GPS button.
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dimar4hire
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ebiz thats what I just posted. heh. It's in the tutorial I posted. oh well. guess nobody cares.
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tbhausen
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't sweat it... I caught your tutorial, and thanks.

Todd/Indy
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ebiz
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dimar4hire wrote:
ebiz thats what I just posted. heh. It's in the tutorial I posted. oh well. guess nobody cares.
Don't be hurt, Dimar. Things tend to be repeated in online forums. Nice tutorial. Thanks!
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jarablue
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there some big secret on how to get the U720 working with Google Earth plus? I have scoured the net and can't find jack on how to get Google Earth plus working with the U720. Am I in the twilight zone here? No one posted any how to's for GEP? MS Streets and Tips work fine but I want to try it out on my plus sub. Odd. Thanks!
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jarablue
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No there isn't people talk about this and that and MS trips is working ok. I have been on the net for the past 3 hours searching for any pdf or how to get the u720 working with google earth and there is nothing. Not one piece of info here or anywhere. People say it should work and how it should be compatible but nothing specific on Google Earth Plus and how to enable GPS on the u720 to work with it. I have searched everywhere. I don't understand. I really don't want to buy a pdf that is probably 3 lines long. I just want to get this to work. And it isn't. I keep popping up in Australia and the date is 1970? Something isn't right. This is borderline funny that I can't find the instructions on how to do this.
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jarablue
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and now people are deleting posts???

Let me ask this...is there a secret door knock I need to be made aware of to know how to get the U720 Novatel card working with Google Earth Plus GPS functions??????? I have scoured the net for 3 hours looking for this one piece of info and nowhere has anything on it. MS S&T no problem but google earth plus is some secret mayan cave map no one wants to give up.

Please don't tell me to search or go here and ask. Can you tell me how to do it in this post I am writing right now??

Sorry to sound rude but I just want to get this working and my eyeballs are about to fall off.

Thank you much
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