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mj911sc EVDO Fledgling
Joined: 16 Jan 2007 Posts: 21
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Well I tethered my cell to a pc and tried out cingulars lowest grade service gsm or something like that...BAD!!! I got 40 down and 20 up, mind you my dialup gave me 26.4 d/u so this was a bust...I plan to try out alltel next week and will post my experience....I would be pleased with a slightly ffaster than dialup connection. Oh and cingulars latency was bad also 450+ ms (ping yahoo) |
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Bighurt49245 EVDO User
Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 62 Location: Homer,MI
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| isamu wrote: | | I can't believe nobody here has tried XBOX LIVE with EVDO Rev.A ?!? |
I've had Sprint Mobile Broadband for about 3 weeks now. It works great for XL. Once in a great while it might lag. I mean like once or twice in a long gaming session. If you have Rev A in your area I would check EVDO out. Oh another thing is when Im playing on XL my wife is surfing the internet and downloading sims 2 crap. Im at school right now, but when I get home I will post some more info of ping times and speeds for you. Dont forget Im in a Rev A area too. |
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Jayson EVDO Junkie
Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 194 Location: ohio , in the sticks
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| I got on the sprint evdo network and im dowloading anywhere between 500 and 800 kbs and 150 to 200 upload and i have had noproblems at all playing fps games now ....I play counterstike soure and an rpg game called ultima online....both run great for me .....when i was only 1xrtt it wouldnt run the games.....was to laggy ....im anxious now for rev a to come out its supposed to be updated by the end of this month ...i should then get around 1 mb dloads and 250 up....well see .... |
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isamu EVDO User
Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 81
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Bighurt49245 wrote: | | isamu wrote: | | I can't believe nobody here has tried XBOX LIVE with EVDO Rev.A ?!? |
I've had Sprint Mobile Broadband for about 3 weeks now. It works great for XL. Once in a great while it might lag. I mean like once or twice in a long gaming session. If you have Rev A in your area I would check EVDO out. Oh another thing is when Im playing on XL my wife is surfing the internet and downloading sims 2 crap. Im at school right now, but when I get home I will post some more info of ping times and speeds for you. Dont forget Im in a Rev A area too. |
| Jayson wrote: | | I got on the sprint evdo network and im dowloading anywhere between 500 and 800 kbs and 150 to 200 upload and i have had noproblems at all playing fps games now ....I play counterstike soure and an rpg game called ultima online....both run great for me .....when i was only 1xrtt it wouldnt run the games.....was to laggy ....im anxious now for rev 0 to come out now its supposed to beupdated by the end of this month ...i should then get around 1 mb dloads and 250 up....well see .... |
Bighurt and Jason, thanks for the replies. That is VERY encouraging news! Can you guys confirm whether or not voice chat is possible and if so, how much does it bog down the connection?
Oh yeah and I almost forgot.... is a PC ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED to get Sprint EVDO RevA connected and working with an Xbox 360?
I will NOT be able to use both at the same time in my situation. It has to be one or the other. I know that there are PCMCIA cards as well as USB modems, but what about ethernet adapters/modems?
The Xbox 360 will only connect online via its ethernet port, no other way. So how would one go about setting up Sprint EVDO to an Xbox 360 without a PC? |
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Walter EVDO Junkie
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 307
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | The Xbox 360 will only connect online via its ethernet port, no other way. So how would one go about setting up Sprint EVDO to an Xbox 360 without a PC? |
You accomplish that by using an EVDO router like the KR1, WRT54G3G-ST, or DIR-450. You will need a PC to get the card activated, but after that you can use the router to share the EVDO connection with multiple devices (like the X-box and a PC) via Ethernet or 802.11g wireless connection. _________________ Reach, Connect, Celebrate, Grow, Serve. |
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isamu EVDO User
Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 81
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the reply Walter. So let me get this straight....
you're saying that I will need a PC to activate my PCMCIA card, along with an EVDO router connected to it at the same time? And then once I get my card activated, I can use an EVDO router to connect to Xbox 360 and get online WITHOUT the need for either the PC or the PCMCIA Card? I'm, assuming the router doesn't have a slot to plug the pcmcia card into, right?
So that means the router and only the router will be transmitting the EVDO signal? |
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Walter EVDO Junkie
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 307
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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No, you plug the PCMCIA card in the PC once and get it activated. Router is sitting idle and disconnected during this time. You then unplug the card from the PC and plug it into the router. That group of routers are specially made to work with these cards and indeed have a PCMCIA slot. From then on, you use the PCMCIA card and router combination for internet access. You can then connect whatever computers (or other devices such as an XBox) to the router (either with an Ethernet cable or via 802.11b/g wireless Ethernet).
Maybe that's where the confusion is? These routers do have their own wireless connection, but that is for connecting computers at home to the router at home via wireless Ethernet. It still needs the EVDO modem (PCMCIA card) to make the wireless connection to the cell phone tower and from there, the internet.
Hope that's more clear. _________________ Reach, Connect, Celebrate, Grow, Serve. |
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isamu EVDO User
Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 81
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. Crystal clear now
Well I hope Michael or Scott or anyone else can provide some answers to my questions in *THIS* thread  |
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isamu EVDO User
Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 81
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Jason and Bighurt: How far away are you guys from your nearest towers? |
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isamu EVDO User
Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 81
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| Walter wrote: | No, you plug the PCMCIA card in the PC once and get it activated. Router is sitting idle and disconnected during this time. You then unplug the card from the PC and plug it into the router. That group of routers are specially made to work with these cards and indeed have a PCMCIA slot. From then on, you use the PCMCIA card and router combination for internet access. You can then connect whatever computers (or other devices such as an XBox) to the router (either with an Ethernet cable or via 802.11b/g wireless Ethernet).
Maybe that's where the confusion is? These routers do have their own wireless connection, but that is for connecting computers at home to the router at home via wireless Ethernet. It still needs the EVDO modem (PCMCIA card) to make the wireless connection to the cell phone tower and from there, the internet.
Hope that's more clear. | Let me ask you a question.....
Once I have the PCMCIA card inserted in the router, does the router's antenna help bring in the EVDO signal? Or is the signal strength still dependant on the antenna that is actually connected to the PCMCIA card? In other words, once the card is in the router, can I substitute th card's antenna with the one on the router? And if I connect an even bigger antenna on the router, will that help the signal even more? |
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Walter EVDO Junkie
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 307
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Nope. The antenna on the router is for the wireless Ethernet only. However, if your EVDO modem has an antenna port (and most do), then you can connect an additional antenna to that. For instance, I have an external omni antenna (bought from 3GStore) mounted on my roof and connected to the antenna port on my U720. It seems to have helped my connection stability considerably.
EDIT: Oh, and just in case you were thinking it: no you can't use the router's antenna on the EVDO card. It's for the wrong frequency. Well, technically you *could* hook it up via an adapter cable, but it's very unlikely it will help any. You need an EVDO (or cell phone) antenna (either 800MHz or 1900 MHz or dual band). _________________ Reach, Connect, Celebrate, Grow, Serve. |
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isamu EVDO User
Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 81
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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walter do you PERSONALLY use Xbox LIVE with your EVDO connection? If so, how is the experience?
Also, what city are you in and how far away are you from your tower? |
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Walter EVDO Junkie
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 307
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Nope. My kids whoop me at Halo 2 far too bad.
My kids have an original X-Box that I think they had connected to the internet at one time. This was probably awhile back when we were using Verizon EVDO. So I can't really tell you how well it works here. I do know that Counterstrike is still playable over EVDO. You still lose any quick firefight around a corner because of the higher lag, but it's still playable.
About the same performance as when we had ISDN. ISDN has lower latency by a little bit but lower throughput too. I think the higher bandwidth of EVDO compensates a bit for the higher latency. My kids still complain about it, but it's very playable on many servers. I just ran Steam and found about 40 Counterstrike Source servers with latency under 150 msec. Not great, but playable.
I live in Ventura County in California. According to the tower maps, I have a tower about 3.5 miles to the east of me and another one 1.4 miles to the west. I finally saw the west tower(s) today. They're up on a ridge, close to the same altitude I'm at. The location looks like they (there's more than a Sprint tower there) are trying to cover the major highway just to the north. I probably don't quite have line of sight to them, but it's pretty close. Probably why the omni on the roof is working so well. _________________ Reach, Connect, Celebrate, Grow, Serve. |
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Llama EVDO Junkie
Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 228 Location: Northern VA
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| isamu wrote: | | walter do you PERSONALLY use Xbox LIVE with your EVDO connection? If so, how is the experience? | Thought I would add my experience as well: I play Halo 2 online all the time, no particular problems with the gameplay and the lag indicator typically is green. It will occasionally go red, but I have only been dropped to reconnect a handful of times.
GRAW seems to be even better, but Madden is a little herky jerky at times. | Quote: | | Also, what city are you in and how far away are you from your tower? | I am in an unknown signal strength zone on Sprints maps, but get Rev 0 (not great speeds). My dad lives on my farm (quarter mile away and a bit higher elevation) and he hits Rev A with better up/download but he does not game. Nearest tower is 2.75 miles, next is 4.64 miles and both of them must have their lobes pointed away or at least tilted such they terrain/trees attenuate the signal.
Vonage works fine for me too. My uploads vary quite a bit, while my dad's are stable at 130kbps; I hope that we'll both see a increase if they add a new tower or arrange the lobes to hit the relatively large dead zone in my area. _________________ --Larry |
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isamu EVDO User
Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 81
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome
Hey, do you guys know if they are working on even FASTER technology than RevA or even EVDO itself? When do you suspect we will be able to get speeds that rival cable but all wireless?
Is WiMax the solution? If not, what else are they working on for the future? |
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