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Sony VAIO TXN10 with Embedded Sprint EVDO Rev A

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:54 pm    Post subject: Sony VAIO TXN10 with Embedded Sprint EVDO Rev A Reply with quote

This thread will be used to discuss the Sony VAIO TXN10 Series with EVDO and specific issues related to this laptop and how it works with EVDO. Other forums can be used to discuss coverage, service, etc. This is the FIRST EVDO Rev A laptop with embedded EVDO.

For someone that has this, I am most interested to know how well it receives signal compared to a PC Card, AND if there are any external ports for EVDO antennas or signal amplifiers (I am guessing there is not).



If you just got one of these laptops, we can activate your Embedded Sprint EVDO card for you.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhhhh ... Sony Vaio VGN-TX series on EVDO? A quick look at Sonystyle.com shows Cingular Edge technology. That would be consistant with other VAIO models. I think Sony has an agreement with Cingular.

If there is some way to get a TX with EVDO Rev-A on either VZW or Sprint, I'd be interested. I'd be even more intersted in a UX series with EVDO.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the model wrong (it was edited correctly), here is the link:

http://www.sony.com/pr/tx
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They were just announced today, it doesn't appear that anyone has them yet:

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Sony today announced that its new VAIO VGN-TX series of ultraportable notebooks will include integrated broadband-capable wide area network technology.

The company said that the TX laptops will be able to easily connect to Sprint's EvDO Power Vision Network, which the communications company expects to upgrade later this year with EvDO Revision A technology (only in selected markets, however).

Revision A is supposed to greatly increase the speed of broadband uploads, so this service (and perhaps this laptop line) will be of interest to those who will be uploading lots of video, for example.

Sony says VAIO TX notebook users should expect to benefit from average download speeds of 450 to 800 kbps and upload speeds of 300 to 400 kbps in the markets where EvDO Revision A network improvements will be rolled out.

The TX ultraportables also will be enabled with Sony's SmartWi technology, which includes wireless WAN, 802.11 b/g, wireless LAN, and Bluetooth technologies.

The TX series ultraportables, which will weigh less than 3 pounds, will have Intel Core Solo processors, 11.1-inch widescreen displays, and Sony's Instant Mode, which gives you access to your digital entertainment without booting up the PC.

TX series ultraportables will have carbon-fiber cases in several colors.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like these are starting to ship, Sony lists the following models:


VAIO® TXN19P/L Notebook VGN-TXN19P/L (Slate Blue)
VAIO® TXN17P/T Notebook VGN-TXN17P/T (Sienna Exterior)
VAIO® TXN17P/B Notebook VGN-TXN17P/B (Charcoal Exterior)
VAIO® TXN15P/W Notebook VGN-TXN15P/W (Platinum exterior)
VAIO® TXN15P/B Notebook VGN-TXN15P/B (Charcoal exterior)
James Bond 007 TX Spy Gear bundle VGN-TXN007

Keep in mind, these have EVDO Rev A built-in.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

I received one of these the other day and it is a nice computer. A few things:

1) DON'T INSTALL another version of Sprint Connection Manager and plan to use a Merlin S720/Novatel U720. There seems to be a conflict with the current Sprint Mobile Broadband drivers that existin on the Vaio and the new ones that get installed. Be sure to set a System Restore point, so you can easily revert back.

2) Don't try to update any firmware of PC Cards, as it can do some "real bad" things to the built-in device (I can no longer get the modem recognized even after restoring/reformatting the hard drive.

Here is the best tip of the day....

Don't call Sprint/Sony to get your activate your device. They will sell you a 1 year $79.99/mo or a 2 year @ $59.99/mo, BUT, you might want to consider purchasing a PX-500 (card is free), or better yet a Novatel U720 (net cost $50). After you sign up with us, we can provide you with a direct Sprint number to easily "swap your ESN". This allows you to swap your service to your Sony and get a free PX-500 or USB U720 for $50.

Having a backup EVDO card might be a good idea if:

- your Vaio dies and you still need to be connected
- want to use your EVDO in another laptop/computer
- want to use your EVDO in a router (just swap the ESN to the other device)
- have a backp way of connecting


We will have more to say on this laptop next week (after we get in the replacement - now we know what not to do).
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello.

I just got a Sony Vaio VGN-TXN15P/B on wednesday.

I was a user of the Pantech PX-500 for about 2 weeks before getting the sony.

Its disappointing how little information sprint, sony, or the internet have on these machines.

I'm wondering, in the documentation it says that the card is Rev. 0, but can be updated to Rev. A. My question is, is the card already Rev A, or are we waiting for sony/sprint/novatel to give us that? I'm not currently in a Rev A area, but I would love to take advantage of the speeds when they do get here.

So far the entire machine has been wonderful. Signal strength and speed is on par with the PX-500. Battery life is much much improved. IMO

I have used the "update device" and it says update complete, but I've yet to witness a change.

You would be surprised about how many sprint reps i had to talk to to get this thing activated!

Can't wait to hear more information from others.

Thanks, Rob.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something i forgot to ask about was data roaming. With the pantech, it easily jumped on alltel's 1x network, with the vaio, it sits there at "searching for service".

Also, if you leave the connection type on "Automatic" it "automatically" goes to 1xrtt, not evdo. Seems like its stupid to have it set to favor 1xrtt over evdo...

EDIT:

I'm editing this instead of making another thread.

But I just found out you can disconnect the device put your mouse over the sprint logo on the smartwi application, and do both ##DATA and ##RTN
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The laptops with embedded EVDO are kind of like a step child, they are not supported "as quickly" as the "sprint labeled" devices. At Sprint's download area, there isn't an update for embedded laptops, but there are for all other devices.

EVDO Rev A devices require a firmware upgrade in order to support and go at EVDO Rev A speeds.

http://www.evdoinfo.com/The_News/Latest_News/Sprint_Releases_EVDO_Rev_A_Firmware_20061023842/

Here is a tip for anyone that has a embedded EVDO card on their laptop (e.g. built-in, not a card that you can remove). DON'T call the number on your laptop to activate it. Instead, order a PX-500 or U720 USB device from us. We will do an "ESN Swap" to your embedded device and send the device to you. This allows you to have a backup device, in case your laptop need service, OR if you sell/trade/upgrade your laptop, you completly lose your EVDO connection and will have to purchase a new device at retail. Getting a backup device gives you options.

Hint: The normal Sprint support numbers that you call will not do the ESN swap, since they say it "requires a different plan". We have a different method to do the swap and I can confirm that it does work - as we have a Sony TX that we got for testing and we couldn't do an ESN swap it like we do with other devices.

So, if you are getting a Sony TX, give us a call to do the activation and get a backup PX-500 (current price is free) or better yet a USB U720 (current price after rebates is $50) and get yourself a backup EVDO device instead of just activating it.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine still refuses to roam. Is this normal? When will this be fixed? All it says is "searching". Kinda disapointing Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is that the EVDO Rev A embedded card has EVDO Rev A hardware BUT EVDO Rev 0 software. This was a little trick Sprint did to ship EVDO Rev A faster than anyone else. They needed to push a new firmware to all EVDO Rev A devices to actually make them EVDO Rev A.

These embedded devices by Sony (HP, Dell and others), are not supported by Sprint, but by Sony, Dell and HP. So, you have to wait for the hardware manufacterers to do the updates and there is no telling how long that will take.

This is a major problem and it is unfortunate that many will now know about it, UNTIL it is too late and they have one of these devices.


Related Links:

http://evdoinfo.blogspot.com/2006/09/evdo-rev-cards-only-have-evdo-rev-0.html
http://evdoinfo.blogspot.com/2006/10/sprint-releases-evdo-rev-firmware.html


Sprint offers firmware upgrades and software downloads via:

http://www.sprint.com/downloads/

But notice, they don't provide the updates for embedded laptops.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the inability of roaming?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Playing with this some more, doing a ##MSL, the last tab has the option of "Enable REV A Support"

I didn't click it b/c i didn't know what it may do...i also saw some information about roaming, that wasn't able to be edited.

Do you have other suggestions for more information on why roaming isn't working, or is it pretty much unknown?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael wrote:
Hello,

I received one of these the other day and it is a nice computer. A few things:

1) DON'T INSTALL another version of Sprint Connection Manager and plan to use a Merlin S720/Novatel U720. There seems to be a conflict with the current Sprint Mobile Broadband drivers that existin on the Vaio and the new ones that get installed. Be sure to set a System Restore point, so you can easily revert back.

2) Don't try to update any firmware of PC Cards, as it can do some "real bad" things to the built-in device (I can no longer get the modem recognized even after restoring/reformatting the hard drive.

Here is the best tip of the day....

Don't call Sprint/Sony to get your activate your device. They will sell you a 1 year $79.99/mo or a 2 year @ $59.99/mo, BUT, you might want to consider purchasing a PX-500 (card is free), or better yet a Novatel U720 (net cost $50). After you sign up with us, we can provide you with a direct Sprint number to easily "swap your ESN". This allows you to swap your service to your Sony and get a free PX-500 or USB U720 for $50.

Having a backup EVDO card might be a good idea if:

- your Vaio dies and you still need to be connected
- want to use your EVDO in another laptop/computer
- want to use your EVDO in a router (just swap the ESN to the other device)
- have a backup way of connecting


We will have more to say on this laptop next week (after we get in the replacement - now we know what not to do).


Hi Michael. I am a bit confused about this. I am thinking about getting the 007 spy bundle with the TX (they have the bundle for $700 off, free shipping and no interest for a year with Sony financing http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=VGNTXN007&Dept=computers&CategoryName=cpu_VAIONotebookComputers_TXSeries). I already have the UX 90 and got the u720. I am not thrilled with the usb modem. It doesn't really sit so securely in my UX as I had hoped. Anyway, I am holding on to both the u720 I have and the UX. I just wanna have more options. The TX comes with PC II card slot if I am not mistaken. Right now I still have my Merlin 620 that I bought from you. I believe I can use both modems that I have with a new TX if I wanted to. But you talk about incompatibility with the built in modem/software if I want to have Rev version A modem that I can attach myself (maybe the PX-500, I like having something securely inside). So what would that mean for me if I got a new PX 500 through you? Which software drivers should I use? Can't I just delete the drivers comes with the TX and reinstall the updated connection manager stuff? (If I were to use a new PC II modem I would not need the built in drivers. They can't simply be deleted? Is it more complicated? Do I need to physically remove the built in chip?)[/url]
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i guess folks are on vacation? My 007 TX is on the way to me next week. wondering what to do here....
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