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dappledandy EVDO Newbie
Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 6 Location: Cincinnati
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:00 pm Post subject: PowerBook and U720 |
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Anybody using the U720 on a Powerbook G4, 17" machine?
Do you need two USB ports (for the Y adapter)?
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Michael Site Admin
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 5314 Location: Cary, IL
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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You only need the Y Adapter, IF you are in a very weak signal area. I usually never use the Y Adapter cable.
Yes, it can work on a PowerBook G4, I have used it many times on mine. We supply a CD with needed drivers for your G4 AND, our company provides tech support (Sprint doesn't).
Also, lets keep this thread on the topic of the 595U. Thanks! _________________ EVDO :: EVDO News :: EVDO Antennas :: Buy Verizon :: Buy Sprint :: EVDO Amplifier |
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bdhadhdnh EVDO User
Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Posts: 30 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| Alex wrote: | | mattengland wrote: | | the benefits are so unclear |
thats the point, exactly.
the benefits of the battery in this device are unclear.
only time will tell. one would need the experiences of many users in fringe areas, before a trend could be identified.
without having had the time to sell and support a bunch of AC595U's, any opinion we give on the AC595U would be based on very limited testing.
conversely, we already have a whole lot of U720/USB720's out there, and know of only a handful of customers who have been unable to get it to live up to expectations. (and in many of those cases, the expectations where un-realistic) |
Speed-wise, did you see any difference between the U720 and 595U?
Can I assume that you are recommending the U720 over the 595U (at this point, based on what you see from testing) to the customer? |
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Michael Site Admin
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 5314 Location: Cary, IL
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:29 am Post subject: |
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We are doing some more tests today and we are working on a full review. I will post some details later today
Many have thought the 595U was a lot smaller than the U720, they are almost identical in size. Keep in mind the 595U's USB port folds up into the bottom and when plugged in can sit vertical.
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kalen43 EVDO Heavy User
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 131
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| Michael wrote: | We are doing some more tests today and we are working on a full review. I will post some details later today
Many have thought the 595U was a lot smaller than the U720, they are almost identical in size. Keep in mind the 595U's USB port folds up into the bottom and when plugged in can sit vertical.
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Well you can vary the position of the 595U. It goes from almost straight out to a 90 degree angle also inbetween.
Also the 595U comes with a desk stand you can plug it into. |
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jackrodgers EVDO Addict
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 1131
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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* Dimensions: U720: .67 x 1.5 x 3.43 , 595U: .79 x 1.53 x 3.66
* Weight: U720: 1.83 Oz; 595U: 2.12 Oz with battery
Gads, that U595 is a big fat hog.......
* Adjustment: U720: No, 595U: 3-position swivel
The U720 is completely adjustable since it can be placed where ever you want and in whatever position you want (and can find a way to support).
* Cable: U720: Y cable; 595U: dock station with USB cable.
The 595U is obviously designed for 1-USB port use while the U720 is designed for 2-port use.
The U720 has the second usb port for those laptops and desktops which have an underpowered USB port. It works just fine with one plug in my MacBook Pro and many Windows laptops. The extra plug is to overcome the deficiency in design in the USB ports by the mfg.
Since my MacBook Pro will be plugged in whenever I am near an ac outlet, this extends the life of the battery and recharges, the battery in the 595 is of questionable benefit to me. Of course I suppose it is nice to have a 595 that remains fully charged after it helps drain my laptop battery in use and recharging itself...
So, the consideration for the battery is simply this, assuming a continuous internet connect:
Suppose my 595 battery is exhausted and I hook it up to my laptop. How long will the laptop battery last.
Suppose the 595 battery is fully charged, how long with the laptop battery last.
Comparable with the U720 would be how long will the same full charge last with the U720 plugged in.
Until someone can provide those three numbers, we can only speculate. |
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Alex Site Admin
Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 3084 Location: Dallas, TX
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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here are a couple of pix showing AC595U inserted, at right angle:
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bdhadhdnh EVDO User
Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Posts: 30 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| kalen43 wrote: | | Michael wrote: | We are doing some more tests today and we are working on a full review. I will post some details later today
Many have thought the 595U was a lot smaller than the U720, they are almost identical in size. Keep in mind the 595U's USB port folds up into the bottom and when plugged in can sit vertical.
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Well you can vary the position of the 595U. It goes from almost straight out to a 90 degree angle also inbetween.
Also the 595U comes with a desk stand you can plug it into. |
Note that the U720 has a flip-out antenna that would help when the modem is lying on its back. Since the 595U antenna is built-in, Can anybody verify the that it should be used upright for better reception? If this is the case, it will need to be used with the dock (if not plugged in directly) and not lying on it back (another piece of accessories to carry around). |
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jackrodgers EVDO Addict
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 1131
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Don't get stuck focusing on the direct insertion into the USB port. The U720 ships with a USB cable...
My U720 is about one yard away from my MacBook Pro and sitting on top of a cabinet. I can place it anywhere with a 270 radius (not wanting to run the cord over or under the MacBook but I could. At the end of its tether I can move the U720 in any direction (locus of a sphere).
I would find the U595 awkward sitting up like that and getting in the way of my hands... |
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AlanInTheWindyCity EVDO Newbie
Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:07 pm Post subject: Sierra 595u in it's Docking station. Creates a hotspot???? |
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I pickup up my 595u yesterday from a sprint store and so far I'm seeing pretty good results from it.
One thing the guy in the store said (may have been BS) is that when connected to my desktop machine via the docking unit the 595u can act as a wifi 'hotspot' in other words I could use the inbuilt 802.11g in my laptop to connect via the 595u to the net?
When I spoke with Sprint Tech support who were helping me get it working on my Vista Desktop machine they said they had heard that as well but as it wasn't something that Sprint supported they couldn't tell me how.
Has anyone heard this?
My laptop is from work so it's in a domain. it's running xp-pro
I'd really appreciate any suggestions on this
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Bigdave EVDO Addict
Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 1069
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Sierra 595u in it's Docking station. Creates a hotspot?? |
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| AlanInTheWindyCity wrote: | I pickup up my 595u yesterday from a sprint store and so far I'm seeing pretty good results from it.
One thing the guy in the store said (may have been BS) is that when connected to my desktop machine via the docking unit the 595u can act as a wifi 'hotspot' in other words I could use the inbuilt 802.11g in my laptop to connect via the 595u to the net?
When I spoke with Sprint Tech support who were helping me get it working on my Vista Desktop machine they said they had heard that as well but as it wasn't something that Sprint supported they couldn't tell me how.
Has anyone heard this?
My laptop is from work so it's in a domain. it's running xp-pro
I'd really appreciate any suggestions on this
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I seriously doubt the 595u can replace a KR1 router. I'd say that was an unusual situation where someone in a store had no idea what they were talking about.  |
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jackrodgers EVDO Addict
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 1131
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: Sierra 595u in it's Docking station. Creates a hotspot?? |
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| AlanInTheWindyCity wrote: | I pickup up my 595u yesterday from a sprint store and so far I'm seeing pretty good results from it.
One thing the guy in the store said (may have been BS) is that when connected to my desktop machine via the docking unit the 595u can act as a wifi 'hotspot' in other words I could use the inbuilt 802.11g in my laptop to connect via the 595u to the net? |
This feature is not limited to the 595U nor to a desktop. Many laptops and Powerbooks and Macbooks can share an internet connection via built in wifi. The drawback being the performance hit, should it occur. |
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coreyinoz EVDO Fledgling
Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 15
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hi all,
Allow me to clear up some confusion regarding the inclusion of batteries inside the Sierra AC595U and AC875U units.
The short answer is that the battery is there to provide extra power where the USB port cannot supply it. That's it.
Full explanation: USB ports provide max power of 500mA. These USB devices can use much more than that (for very short periods of time). Consider that wireless communication is burst-ey in nature - the unit isn't taxed much when you're composing an e-mail, but sending a 1MB spreadsheet in poor conditions can tax it. As well, in fringe areas, the unit will draw even more power to raise the gain of the signal.
Rather than using a Y-adapter to hog 2 USB ports to get the extra power, Sierra designed in a battery as a power buffer in the unit. The battery is constantly trickle charging from the USB, while providing the large bursts of power needed during peak transmission periods. Given that the AC595U is roughly the same size as the U720, it looks like a pretty good solution - especially if your USB ports are at a premium. As well, the battery is capable of supplying more than the 500mA x 2 that the Y-adapter can draw.
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Alex Site Admin
Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 3084 Location: Dallas, TX
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| coreyinoz wrote: | | As well, in fringe areas, the unit will draw even more power to raise the gain of the signal. |
which is exactly the reason this device makes NO SENSE for someone who LIVES in a fringe area or is constantly in a weak/challenging signal area. (like fulltime RVers or truckers or folks out in the sticks)
think about it.
if there isn't power in a USB port to provide the modem with enough juice and the battery has to kick in ALL THE TIME, then there is no way the battery will ever be recharged.
in fact, once the battery has been discharged from trying to compensate for a weak signal over an extended period of time, the battery will now be fighting for or quite possibly STEALING power from the already underpowered modem. nice feature.
a person under these circumstances would probably be better off plugging their USB device into a powered hub.
the onboard battery of the AC595U appears to be a "feature" only for those who are INFREQUENTLY in weak signal areas. |
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coreyinoz EVDO Fledgling
Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 15
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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if there isn't power in a USB port to provide the modem with enough juice and the battery has to kick in ALL THE TIME, then there is no way the battery will ever be recharged.
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It's true that a non-stop transmission would kill the battery eventually. However, in order to do this, you'd need to fill some exceptional criteria.
a) non-stop transmit for several hours at
b) full speed on a
c) Rev A network in
d) fringe coverage
Any of the above conditions not present would allow the battery to re-charge. Even a short break in transmit will allow the battery to recharge.
The vast majority of users are not sending data upstream at 100% bandwidth non-stop. I would think that getting booted from your carrier would become the larger concern at that point.
Given that the grand majority of internet use (especially mobile broadband use) is e-mail, surfing, etc., the battery would seem to be an elegant solution considering those users would never meet the conditions noted above for enough time to kill the battery.
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