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V640 ExpressCard to PC Card Adapter Success/Failure

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Scott
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: V640 ExpressCard to PC Card Adapter Success/Failure Reply with quote

We have just completed first-round tests of the Verizon-packaged ExpressCard Adapter which converts ExpressCards like the new Verizon V640 (Novatel XV620) to the PC Card form factor.


Back of package indicates:
    Quote:
    To support the ExpressCard
    Adapter you laptop must use
    either Ti or O2 Micro
    Cardbus/Smart Cardbus controller.

    Compatible with:

    Dell Inspiron 6000, 9300, XPS2 M170.
    Dell Latitude D410, D420, D510, D520, D610, D620, D810, D820, 700M
    Dell Precision M65, M70
Dell Inspiron 6000 or other models may NOT be compatible. More below.

Instructions inside the packaging sleeve further indicate:

Quote:
"IMPORTANT: To support the ExpressCard Adapter your laptop must use either Ti or O2 Micro Cardbus/Smart Cardbus controller.

Follow these instructions to find out what PC Card controller the laptop is using:

Go to: Start > My Computer > View System Information.

Select the Hardware Tab and click on "Device Manager".

Expand the PCMCIA Adapters option.

If the listing for PCMCIA Adapter displays "Smart CardBus", your laptop is compatible with the ExpressCard Adapter.

If the listing for PCMCIA Adapter diplays "CardBus" only or "Ricoh CardBus" your laptop is not compatible with the ExpressCard Adapter.
NOTE: If you have difficulty finding this information please consult your notebook manufacturer.

OUR RESULTS: All tested with a Verizon V640
    Powerbook 15" 1.33GHz (model: Powerbook5,4) - Failure. Mac OS 10.4.7. No power LED.

    Sony VAIO VGN-SZ120P - Failure. Windows XP Pro, SP2. Power LED *does* come on. No device detected. No device listed in Device Manager (this notebook actually has both PC Card and ExpressCard34 slots, but the PC Card slot uses a generic Cardbus chipset so doesn't support the adapter).

    Kyocera KR1 - Failure. (RK1006 firmware) Power LED *does* come on. No device detected. ExpressCard adapter doesn't seat all the way due to hitting housing at front edge of adapter (opened up unit to get circuit board access).

    Top Global MB6000 - Failure. (v1.1.21pre4 firmware) No power LED. Uses Ti PCI chipset.

    Top Global MB8000 - Failure. (v3.03 firmware) No power LED. Uses Ti PCI chipset.


Please include the following info in your success/failure reports:
    Model of ExpressCard (Dell 5700, V640, UX870, etc)

    Model number of machine and OS

    Success or Failure

    If failure, whether the power LED came on.

    If successful, what connection software you're using and whether or not all features work (such as card activation or updating PRL).

    If you know the chipset type, please list that too.

THANKS!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried with a:

PowerBook 15", 1.67MHz, Mac OS 10.4.7 - Failure. No power LED.

So, it appears that the ExpressCard Adapter doesn't work with PowerBooks Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI, this article on EVDOinfo.com will help you determine if your computer is compatible:

Novatel V640 ExpressCard Adapter Compatibility Cardbus vs. Cardbay
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just spoke with a customer this morning who was intending to use the Verizon V640 and the V640 CardAdapter in his Dell Inspiron 6000. It did not work.

His Inspiron 6000 has the Ricoh Cardbus chipset, which is not compatible and noted on the inner sleeve of Verizon's Express Card Adapter packaging, yet the FRONT of the retail packaging for the Express Card Adapter lists the Dell Inspiron 6000 as being compatible!

Dell Inspiron 6000: FAILURE, no power LED, uses Ricoh Cardbus chipset.

Anyone wishing to use the V640 ExpressCard in a notebook with a standard PC Card slot should check their PCMCIA chipset/driver BEFORE they purchase the V640 ExpressCard and/or Card Adapter.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:46 am    Post subject: Express Card Adapter Reply with quote

I tried the card with my Dell Inspiron 9300. The packaging indicates that this computer is compatible. The packaging also indicates that you must have either a Ti or O2 Micro Cardbus/Smart Cardbus controller. Apparently the Ricoh controller isn't compatible with the two mentioned.

The packaging states that the adapter is compatible with the following computers:

Dell Inspiron 6000, 9300, XPS2, M170
Dell Latitude D410, D420, D510, D520, D610, D620, D810, D820, 700M
Dell Precision M65, M70

If I insert the adapter into the PCMCIA slot without the expresscard, the system recognizes the new hardware and shows it as a PCMCIA MTD-0002 but there are no drivers to install. If I insert the express card into the adapter and then insert it into the PCMCIA slot, no new hardware is found.

I'm extremely disappointed this adapter didn't work.

Model of ExpressCard - V640

Dell Inspiron 9300 Windows XPProSP2

Failure

Power lead did not come on

Ricoh R/RL/5C476(II) or Compatible Cardbus Controller
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A customer recently responded that the ExpressCard Adapter did not work with his Dell 700m.

Dell Inspiron 700m: FAILURE, no power LED, chipset not indicated.

That's now four different Dell notebooks that we know of that the ExpressCard Adapter does not work with *YET* are listed as 'compatible' on Verizon's V640CARDADPTR packaging.

WHOOPS. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:01 am    Post subject: Not many dell laptop will work talk to Verizon storemanager Reply with quote

Try on 3 dell laptops 700m saw the pcmcia adapter but not the v640, no good on xps gen2 and 8600, looks soneone needs to do better software using a buscard software to make it work
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Model of ExpressCard (Dell 5700, V640, UX870, etc) - V640

Model number of machine and OS - Toshiba Satellite A25-S208; Windows XP Pro (SP2)

Success or Failure - Failure - No Light

I somehow have two controllers for my PCMCIA slot -
(1) Texas Instruments PCI-1410 CardBus Controller and
(2) Toshiba ToPIC100 CardBus Controller.

Further Notes: Installation of Verizon software is fine. When I proceed to install the hardware via the OS Add Hardware Wizard - it am unable to find the proper driver for completion of installation.

I have an NRB Ticket number with the Verizon tech support and am awaiting a call back with very low hopes after finding this and other related threads.

As Scott says above: "Anyone wishing to use the V640 ExpressCard in a notebook with a standard PC Card slot should check their PCMCIA chipset/driver BEFORE they purchase the V640 ExpressCard and/or Card Adapter."[/code][/b]
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Novatel ExpressCard Adapter is going to cause MORE returns and frustrated customers then any other product. Not only doesn't it work with most computers or routers, but the devices that are listed on the package as being compatible, ARE NOT!

Hopefully, prospective customers find this thread, (or call us), so that they can be made aware of the problems.

There will be other ExpressCard/34 to PCMCIA adapters on the market that will actually work, but it may take some time before they are available.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:04 pm    Post subject: frustrations abound Reply with quote

Michael wrote:
There will be other ExpressCard/34 to PCMCIA adapters on the market that will actually work, but it may take some time before they are available.

So, in the meantime, I just paid $179 for this ExpressCard, $29.99 for the adapter - but will have to exchange them for a PCMCIA-type card wireless card (possibly the Kyocera?) to use on a laptop that is on the precipice of replacement by another laptop that will most likely have an ExpressCard slot *bigsigh*
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting discussion, I ordered an upgrade to the 640 for my new MB Pro and I saw the adapter, would have been nice to exchange the card between my PB and the MB Pro...

Can I have two EVDO cards assigned to the same number, one for my PB and one for my MB Pro? (probably not)

Can I use a USB2 to ExpressCard adapter? (if one even exists)
Here is a cardbus adapter: http://www.elandigitalsystems.com/usb/u132.php
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:53 pm    Post subject: Verizon Expresscard Adapter Reply with quote

The Verizon expresscard with the adapter does not work on my three year old HP 7000 Windows XP Media Center laptop. No one at Verizon or HP has any answers. Now I have all this money invested in something I cannot use. The salesperson, of course, assured me it would work when I purchased it.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have been trying to get the word out....

Quote:
we expect that the ExpressCard Adapter will cause more V640 returns because the uneducated reps at the Verizon stores will tell them it works - customers will get home and find out otherwise.


V640 ExpressCard Adapter Compatibility Warning
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject: EVDO with a Wireless PC Data Card or Express Card Reply with quote

Just to add to the misery, I purchased a new laptop that only has the expresscard slot, thinking I could use the expresscard in both laptops. Now I have a new laptop which cost over $1,000, expresscard $179, two year contract at $59.90, adapter $29 and over three or four hours on the phone with Verizon who just can't figure it out.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully you are within your 15 day trial and you can return and cancel.

The Novatel V640 ExpressCard will work in your laptop with an ExpressCard/34 or ExpressCard/54 slot, it won't in the laptop with a PCMCIA adapter.

We know of some other ExpressCard to PCMCIA solutions that are under development (by other companies), that should work MUCH better, but for now, the ExpressCard Adapter is a waste of time/effort.
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