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Scott
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheSpillmonkey wrote:
I took one of the car adapters apart (the casing prys apart pretty easily), removed the cigaret adapter metal peices, and solderd in wire leads...


YES! Hardware hAxIn6 at its best. Love it.

Going to quote you in the Remote Power thread Spillmonkey.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rmk wrote:
Received the KR1 and works fine for web browsing, but my work VPN client does not connect through the router. Works directly with the KPC650 air card and through my D-Link DI-704 with factory defaults. Called tech support and they recommended returning it since the router cannot be configured to work with my VPN, possible MTU issue. The VPN client is from Cisco Version 4.7.00.0533. Anyone else encounter a problem with a VPN client?


It's not so much an MTU issue as it is a firewall/port issue. Cisco and most of the other canned VPN solutions do some pretty funky authentication and encryption schemes that ack on different ports than they syn'd on. The first thing to try is to put the IP you're trying to use the VPN on into the router's DMZ. This exposes all ports to the WAN connection outside of the firewall.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rmk wrote:
Received the KR1 and works fine for web browsing, but my work VPN client does not connect through the router. Works directly with the KPC650 air card and through my D-Link DI-704 with factory defaults. Called tech support and they recommended returning it since the router cannot be configured to work with my VPN, possible MTU issue. The VPN client is from Cisco Version 4.7.00.0533. Anyone else encounter a problem with a VPN client?


I am using Cisco VPN Client 4.0.3(F), the KR1, and a KPC650 with no issues. There are two settings on the KR1 that supposedly enable VPN -- make sure that they are enabled for your router. Under Tools -- Misc., check to see that PPTP and/or IPSec are enabled. It is also possible that a software firewall (if you use one), could be blocking the ports necessary for the Cisco VPN client to operate properly. I had that issue initially when I configured my home network for VPN access -- check your firewall log.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

visortgw wrote:
rmk wrote:
Received the KR1 and works fine for web browsing, but my work VPN client does not connect through the router. Works directly with the KPC650 air card and through my D-Link DI-704 with factory defaults. Called tech support and they recommended returning it since the router cannot be configured to work with my VPN, possible MTU issue. The VPN client is from Cisco Version 4.7.00.0533. Anyone else encounter a problem with a VPN client?


I am using Cisco VPN Client 4.0.3(F), the KR1, and a KPC650 with no issues. There are two settings on the KR1 that supposedly enable VPN -- make sure that they are enabled for your router. Under Tools -- Misc., check to see that PPTP and/or IPSec are enabled. It is also possible that a software firewall (if you use one), could be blocking the ports necessary for the Cisco VPN client to operate properly. I had that issue initially when I configured my home network for VPN access -- check your firewall log.


I had already checked the settings and tech support walked through this again. I also tried using DMZ and no luck. The VPN works when the KPC650 is plugged directly into the laptop. My home computer using the VPN client works plugged into the DI-704 (with default settings) which is connected to the dsl modem. After switching to the KR1 with the KPC650, the VPN client does not work.
Tech support seemed to know of a problem, but said the router could not be configured to resolve it. At that point they told me to return it, since they did not know if/when it would be fixed.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not really loving the fact that they told you to return it... Confused

This is the problem with a lot of, "lower end" routers; they don't support L2TP passthrough nor do they support PAT, which allows for some of the proprietary VPN clients to work. KR1 is based off a fairly standard router platform and doesn't really deal with more advanced features. It all depends on how your VPN server is configured. Some are configured with fairly standard connection and authentication methods; these seem to work fine. However, some are configured in such a way to make the connection more secure but at the same time it makes the connection not play well with a router.

KR1 will likely never work for the latter situation in which you seem to find yourself. The next revision of the product will support more of these types of things but the problem is deeper than just a firmware upgrade.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rmk wrote:
Received the KR1 and works fine for web browsing, but my work VPN client does not connect through the router. Works directly with the KPC650 air card and through my D-Link DI-704 with factory defaults. Called tech support and they recommended returning it since the router cannot be configured to work with my VPN, possible MTU issue. The VPN client is from Cisco Version 4.7.00.0533. Anyone else encounter a problem with a VPN client?


We've had similar issues with VPN software over WiFi. You may have to open up the port numbers (4500?) for your VPN software on the router. Is IPsec over TCP? If the VPN software settings are configurable, try IPSec over UDP instead. Do a google on 'vpn ipsec udp tcp' and the flavor of your VPN software for lots of info about the issue.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:24 pm    Post subject: FCC Documents Reply with quote

Link to FCC Application documents.

https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=743600&fcc_id='KA2DI725EVA1'
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:56 am    Post subject: Of course it runs Linux... Reply with quote

Now to politely request the source code

(turn the log on - Status->Log->Log settings)

Feb 9 10:53:53 (none) user.info klogd: NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
Feb 9 10:53:53 (none) user.info klogd: IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
Feb 9 10:53:53 (none) user.info klogd: IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes
Feb 9 10:53:53 (none) user.info klogd: TCP: Hash tables configured (established 4096 bind 8192)
Feb 9 10:53:53 (none) user.info klogd: GRE over IPv4 tunneling driver
Feb 9 10:53:53 (none) user.info klogd: NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the pages for the log didn't say KR1, it said DI-604.

http://www.dlink.com/products/?model=DI-604

ARM7 or ARM9 - I wonder if my Zaurus code will run...

(I also found it creates a serial USB port for my iPod, which explains that behavior, and apparently recognizes some other phones)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I found that problem with the DI-604 showing up on the DMZ page. That will be fixed in a later firmware upgrade. You can't load DI-604 or any other router firmware onto KR1 due to, among other things, the cardbus. Other router firmware will not have the driver stacks or the PPP dialing mechanisms required to make KR1 work. DI-604 shows up because they copied the JavaScript for the GUI from some of their existing codebase.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject: When Status glows red Reply with quote

I had a loose antenna connection, so was only getting a very marginal signal, but the only indication was some strange disconnects and a red status light.

It was hard to diagnose. It would be nice for the EVDO connection page to have a third option besides connect/disconnect where it would poll or even just indicate the service and signal strength.

(I've been looking at the control port protocol - apparently there is something where it can notify of signal strenght changes and other things).

Now if I could only get a shell...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radio Shack has a flexible antenna that works with the KR1 - it is about twice as high as the one that comes with it.

Also note that there is an internal antenna in the KR1, so it works without any external antenna.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has any one tested the range on the router
Indoors. I should get mine today but was just curious if the KR1 had good range like the routers with the SRX or MIMO That linksys or Belkin sell
Enjoy I cant wait to get mine
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hooked it up and it works well.
I am a little disappointed in the MAC filtering but can deal with it Only can filter 1 address that is lame.
I was using a tower with a PCMCIA adapter to share the internet this is truly a much easier way to do it. Thanks EVDO forums and Thank you Kyocera.

The indoor range is good but the Linksys router with the SRX may be a little better. Enjoy gotta go and surf
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can add multiple MAC IDs into the MAC filter. The router is WiFi Alliance certified which means it conforms to basic standards for quality of signal.
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