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VERIZON TERMINATED MY SERVICE

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slyfly
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I JUST GOT MY NOTICE FROM VERIZON THAT THEY WILL BE TERMINATING MY EVDO SERVICE IN 10 DAYS. THEY SAID THAT I HAVE EXCEEDED 5 GB IN THE LAST 30 DAYS!!

HAS VERIZON CRANKED UP THEIR TERMINATION SURVEILLANCE, OR IS IT JUST ME!!??

BY THE WAY, ANYONE WANTS A V640 CARD NOW?
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Michael
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cblzac wrote:
i am keeping a very close eye on the streaming cam site justin.tv he has a webcam strapped to his head 24/7 and is using sprint evdo its been up 11 days so far I want to see what sprint wil say at the end of the month with him, that wil be a true test of "unlimited" or not


FYI, we sold Justin his equipment, us is using a Novatel U720(s) on Sprint (actually, he has 4 of them). They looked at Verizon USB720, but we convinced them, it wouldn't last very long.
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Michael
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slyfly wrote:
I JUST GOT MY NOTICE FROM VERIZON THAT THEY WILL BE TERMINATING MY EVDO SERVICE IN 10 DAYS. THEY SAID THAT I HAVE EXCEEDED 5 GB IN THE LAST 30 DAYS!!


What type of applications were you running?

If you want to go with Sprint, give us a call, you can get a Rev A ExpressCard.
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xenophon
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bunch of media is picking this up again..
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/04/verizon_says_un.html

What I find surprising is that Verizon still says 'unlimited' access on their most recent press releases and do not mention the 5GB limit. IE....
http://sev.prnewswire.com/computer-electronics/20070403/CLTU04903042007-1.html
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was slashdotted to:

http://slashdot.org/articles/07/04/04/0153256.shtml

Maybe the added attention will get Verizon to change. If they want to keep it limited, that is their option, BUT they should:

- Not call it unlimited
- IF someone goes over the limit, instead of sending them a "Your Terminated" letter, slap them on the wrist first and give them a warning.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

broadbandreports.com has a posting that a leaked VZW memo is telling employees to STOP using the term "unlimited" and that their marketing literature will be updated in April to eliminate "unlimited."

That's better than them lying as they have been, but it would have been nice if they had backed off the cap. I'd switch to Sprint in a heartbeat, but they don't have EVDO in my area.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: Formerly Known As Unlimited Reply with quote

Verizon may have finally succumbed to online media pressure.

Nowhere on this page that describes their service, does it say 'unlimited':

http://b2b.vzw.com/broadband/bbapccard.html

additionally, nowhere in their terms of service does it say 'unlimited':

http://b2b.vzw.com/broadband/bba_terms.html

time to start referring to verizon's offering as the 5GB BroadBandAccess Plan FKA 'unlimited'. Rolling Eyes
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SlyFerret
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been under the 5GB limit since I signed up with Verizon.

In March, I managed to use 5.5GB of bandwidth.

What was different than usual in March? I downloaded an Ubuntu .iso image, and then a few hundred megs of updates each for the two machines I installed it on.

I also did a clean re-install of Windows XP on another computer, and then had to download hundreds of megs of service packs, updates, and all the other little programs that get a new PC ready to go.

I haven't received a letter yet, but I guess my billing cycle hasn't been over for long. I'll post again if/when I receive my letter.

-SF
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arcanic
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:18 pm    Post subject: how about downloading music up TO 5GB? Reply with quote

Hi all -

I know that TOS states that streaming and/or downloading program is illegal, however, does it really matter if you don't go over your 5GB limitation?

Thanks in advance,

Arc
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operknockity
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Re: how about downloading music up TO 5GB? Reply with quote

arcanic wrote:
I know that TOS states that streaming and/or downloading program is illegal, however, does it really matter if you don't go over your 5GB limitation?

If they wanna get tough, then yes, it does matter, but they'd have to start inspecting every data packet to look for the offending ones. Otherwise, you are presumed innocent as long as you stay below the 5GB limit, and presumed guilty if you go above it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: how about downloading music up TO 5GB? Reply with quote

operknockity wrote:
arcanic wrote:
I know that TOS states that streaming and/or downloading program is illegal, however, does it really matter if you don't go over your 5GB limitation?

If they wanna get tough, then yes, it does matter, but they'd have to start inspecting every data packet to look for the offending ones. Otherwise, you are presumed innocent as long as you stay below the 5GB limit, and presumed guilty if you go above it.


New question for you then. I'm running a Novatel V20 with the latest version of the Verizon software. 80% of the time it fails in Vista, so I just went to CONNECT TO - NATIONAL ACCESS under the start menu.

By using this method, I've noticed that it does not 'time out' if you don't use it for a period of time. I forgot one day and left it on all day. It never disconnected.

I didn't use much data at all, however, my session was a ton of hours. Does Verizon care too much about this that anyone knows of?

Arc
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GrandMstrBud
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if anyone from Verizon is on this forum or not but I just avoided switching 100 or so sprint cards to Verizon just because of their TOS. Sure they have launched EVDO REV A in the area but Sprint is almost done launching it as they are in the testing phase. Our company has a total of around 150 total cards and out of those there are about 5 and the rest being Sprint but my boss didn't like the idea of accounts getting cancelled after 5 GB of usage. Sure not all of our users would hit that mark but I'm sure we would have some as we did have one card cancelled last year for "abusing the service". Maybe someday Verizon will learn that if they make unlimited really unlimited then they would not loose so many customers. So hell with Verizon as we will keep Sprint as it's cheaper and there is no limits.
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tampahoo
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was curious...how much data do you think you have sent/received in a given month playing WoW? My brother plays, and is trying to get me into it. I use a laptop with a Verizon EVDO card, and I don't want to run the risk of violating the terms of the contract. If I play an hour or so a day, a few days a week (say 20 hours a month), any idea how much data I'll use playing the game? Thanks
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Gladiator
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once Sprint has EVDO Rev A in my area, I'm just going to terminate my service by going over 5 gigs. No termination fee, gets the job done Laughing
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MarkJC
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's funny that they say 5GB/month is more than 40x what their average user uses. (By the way, I assume the 5GB is the amount downloaded? Or does that factor in any upload activity too?)

That means that their average user would have to download only 250MB a month,then. That comes to a little over 8mb per day. Put another way, a person with a 600kbps connection would have to use their full bandwidth for only 1min 45secs a day to be an "average user" according to Verizon.
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