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Clone my UML290?

 
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herlien
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:56 am    Post subject: Clone my UML290? Reply with quote

I use Verizon for my home internet service, using a UML290 attached to an MBR95 router, with an external rooftop antenna on the UML290. I have the 290 more or less permanently attached to my home, both to accommodate the antenna, and also because I'm worried about breaking the antenna connector if I were to detach and reattach it repeatedly for traveling (the antenna connector is reported to be fragile in that respect).

This is great for home internet use, but not good for traveling. I would love to purchase a 2nd UML290 (or similar data card) for traveling, and clone the SIM. Is this possible? Permissible? I'd be careful to have only one active at a time -- I'd turn off the home internet router/card while I'm gone on travel. Can it be done? Can 3gstore sell me the additional card and clone the SIM?

Thanks,
Bob
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dario
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't clone the sim However you can have 2 modems 2 sim cards and switch between both of them. Like doing and ESN swap.

So yes technially you can purchase another Pantech UML290 and get another sim card and swap between the two

http://3gstore.com/product/3581_verizon-refurbished-uml290.html
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Licklog
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Clone my UML290? Reply with quote

herlien wrote:
I use Verizon for my home internet service, using a UML290 attached to an MBR95 router, with an external rooftop antenna on the UML290. I have the 290 more or less permanently attached to my home, both to accommodate the antenna, and also because I'm worried about breaking the antenna connector if I were to detach and reattach it repeatedly for traveling (the antenna connector is reported to be fragile in that respect).

This is great for home internet use, but not good for traveling. I would love to purchase a 2nd UML290 (or similar data card) for traveling, and clone the SIM. Is this possible? Permissible? I'd be careful to have only one active at a time -- I'd turn off the home internet router/card while I'm gone on travel. Can it be done? Can 3gstore sell me the additional card and clone the SIM?



Thanks,
Bob


I have a similar setup with my UML290 and MBR95. I have two antennas hooked up to it (MIMO). I have a 4620LE jetpack from Millenicom and I bought a second UML290 on ebay for $30 so when I want to go mobile I just pop out the SIM from one an slip it into either of the other devices without affecting the antennas.

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herlien
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Dario and licklog. Would the ESN swap require a call to Verizon every time I go out of town for a couple of days, and when I return? Can I do it myself online? Any repercussions for doing lots of these?

I don't like the idea of swapping the SIM, as I have my existing UML290 permanently mounted, with no good access to the back cover.

Thanks,
Bob
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dmc271
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

herlien wrote:
Would the ESN swap require a call to Verizon every time I go out of town for a couple of days, and when I return? Can I do it myself online? Any repercussions for doing lots of these?


I've done this a couple of times, and you do have to do it over the phone or in a corporate store. The main problem is that it takes a good 15 minutes on the phone to get it accomplished (with the wait time, reading the long SIM numbers, etc.). IMHO, you wouldn't want to do this on a regular basis, simply due to the hassle.

Perhaps you can modify the way your UML290 is mounted to provide easier access to the SIM card? I swap SIM cards between devices all the time, and it's instantaneous (no calls required--it just works). I have my modem on a shelf with the antenna cabling secured to the shelf, and the pigtails coming the rest of the way to the modem. This makes popping out the SIM card very easy with a small flathead screwdriver that I leave next to the modem. I think this is the most feasible solution if you travel frequently.

Another solution would be to use the hotspot feature on a 4G LTE phone. I do this for short trips. There's extra cost in this approach, but it's very convenient.
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dario
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

herlien wrote:
Thanks Dario and licklog. Would the ESN swap require a call to Verizon every time I go out of town for a couple of days, and when I return? Can I do it myself online? Any repercussions for doing lots of these?

I don't like the idea of swapping the SIM, as I have my existing UML290 permanently mounted, with no good access to the back cover.

Thanks,
Bob


You will need to call in to do the sim change every time.

or you can get a second device for $69.99 a month for 20 GB of service

http://3gstore.com/product/4085_millenicom_jetpack_4620le_with_router_configuration.html
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herlien
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dario wrote:
You will need to call in to do the sim change every time.

or you can get a second device for $69.99 a month for 20 GB of service

http://3gstore.com/product/4085_millenicom_jetpack_4620le_with_router_configuration.html


Again, thanks. But I have no interest in paying for another data plan, whether it's a MiFi or an LTE phone to use as a hotspot. I was hoping I could use my existing plan for the (fairly rare) occasions that I travel. (My mounting location for the UML290 is very inconvenient, because I thought I'd never have to touch it. And it's pretty well fixed by the antenna cable run).

But this thread -- http://www.evdoforums.com/thread12890.html -- appears to indicate that I can do the ESN swap online, without calling Verizon and taking 15 minutes every time I swap back and forth. Am I misinterpreting it?

-Bob
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evdovalerie
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Herlien, the post you referenced is correct. In fact, we still perform ESN swaps online ourselves (the most recent time being yesterday). That being said, if you can at least take the SIM out of your existing UML290, then you can plug it into a 2nd UML290 and just swap the ESN online. No need to contact Verizon directly, and no need for a 2nd SIM or 2nd line of service.
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TopTN
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note to herlien. You can get a shared data plan from Verizon for some number of GB (maybe 6GB) and add the second Pantech for $20 per month to share the same GB. I had a situation where my wife's employment qualified for a Verizon discount and we have no VZ cell phones. The shared data plan qualified for the discount while the single Pantech plan did not qualifiy so having two data devices wasn't such a big deal.
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smithandwest
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Clone my UML290? Reply with quote

Licklog wrote:


I have a similar setup with my UML290 and MBR95. I have two antennas hooked up to it (MIMO). I have a 4620LE jetpack from Millenicom and I bought a second UML290 on ebay for $30 so when I want to go mobile I just pop out the SIM from one an slip it into either of the other devices without affecting the antennas.

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Ok this has got my interest - I am wanting to go with Millenicom but would love to be able to use a UML290 instead, in my current MBR1400. I have a 4620 now with Verizon and it has connection/dropping issues, won't connect automatically like it should, etc, imagine Millenicom's will be no different.

So there is no problem taking the SIM from the Millenicom 4620 and putting it into a UML290, and using that as my device with Millenicom instead? I believe it would also need a sim adapter, correct?
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evdovalerie
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using the Millenicom SIM in a Verizon Pantech UML290 has been tested and does work, but it is not supported by either carrier. That being said, we can't guarantee how long it will continue to work. Since the 4620 jetpack takes a micro SIM and the UML290 a standard, you will need an adapter.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

evdovalerie wrote:
Using the Millenicom SIM in a Verizon Pantech UML290 has been tested and does work, but it is not supported by either carrier. That being said, we can't guarantee how long it will continue to work. Since the 4620 jetpack takes a micro SIM and the UML290 a standard, you will need an adapter.


Thanks. Went ahead and grabbed a UML290 off ebay yesterday, and have a sim adapter, going to try it with my Verizon 4620's SIM to start. Not in a hurry to cancel yet anyway since it's still in contract, nor in a hurry to spend the initial money on the Millenicom device & activation until I need to.
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herlien
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Clone my UML290? Reply with quote

Licklog wrote:
I have a similar setup with my UML290 and MBR95. I have two antennas hooked up to it (MIMO). I have a 4620LE jetpack from Millenicom and I bought a second UML290 on ebay for $30 so when I want to go mobile I just pop out the SIM from one an slip it into either of the other devices without affecting the antennas.

Licklog Very Happy Very Happy


Thanks Licklog, Dario, and others. After dithering for a while, I finally bought a used UML290 for $20 on eBay ($15 + shipping).

After climbing on a chair, then windowsill, then file cabinet, I found out that my permanently mounted UML290 (with the antenna) indeed has the SIM card accessible. So I turned off the router, took out the SIM from the UML290, put it in the new one, plugged it in, and ran VZAccessManager. It worked! At least, long enough to update the firmware. Then, because it's not connected to my antenna (and I live in the boonies), the connection broke. So I had to reverse the process in order to post this response. But it's looking good.

Thanks for all the help,
Bob
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pilot zenith
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

evdovalerie wrote:
Using the Millenicom SIM in a Verizon Pantech UML290 has been tested and does work, but it is not supported by either carrier. That being said, we can't guarantee how long it will continue to work. Since the 4620 jetpack takes a micro SIM and the UML290 a standard, you will need an adapter.

Valerie, that being the case, is there A way to purchase just the Sim from Millenicom since I own the UML290 and save the hot spot cost?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pilot zenith wrote:
evdovalerie wrote:
Using the Millenicom SIM in a Verizon Pantech UML290 has been tested and does work, but it is not supported by either carrier. That being said, we can't guarantee how long it will continue to work. Since the 4620 jetpack takes a micro SIM and the UML290 a standard, you will need an adapter.

Valerie, that being the case, is there A way to purchase just the Sim from Millenicom since I own the UML290 and save the hot spot cost?


I emailed Millenicom before I got mine and they said no. I initially inquired because I already had a 4620 from Verizon so I didn't need another. I'm sure it's because they need to make some money too so consider it a high activation fee. Maybe someone who is looking to cancel would allow you take over their account for a small fee (go in and change the account and billing info to yours and send you the sim)?
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