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Location: Near Statesville, NC USA

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:08 am    Post subject: YES!!! Got 4G!!! Reply with quote

Last week I ordered and received a setup from the 3GStore that took us from the era of Morse code to 4G in a bounding leap as far as getting on the internet is concerned. We'd recently been told by Verizon we were now in their footprint but apparently that meant the signal came to the end of our lane which is .4 of a mile away. We'd been struggling along for the past two years with 3G but could only manage to get around 250 Kbps. At first I tried the new Wilson Sleek 4G-V which had absolutely no effect at all on getting us a 4G signal. Undeterred I called the 3GStore and their guy Dario listened and put together a cart of items that I needed. Here's what he recommended:

Cellphone-Mate 3-Watt Verizon 4G LTE Direct Connect Amplifier - CM700V-32 [700Vmhz ONLY]
9.5" Full Band Outdoor Omni 3G/4G Antenna - CM288W
20' LMR240 Cable (FME/Female & N/Male Connectors)
20' LMR240 Cable (FME/Male & FME/Female Connectors)
Adapter Cable for U760/USB551L/4510L/4620L/250U
Wilson 50ohm Lightning Surge Protector - 859902
N/Male to FME/Female Connector - 951110
N/Male to FME/Male Adapter - 971113

I then bought two lengths of 1-1/4 galvanized conduit and a locking connector, a 4-foot galvanized iron pipe, 20-feet of coated heavy ground wire from Lowes, and an antenna mast standoff from a local electronics store.

First I drilled two holes near the end of one of the conduit pieces and used 2"x 1/4" hex-head bolts to secure the Omni-Directional antenna to the conduit and then attached the first of the two cables with the N/Male connector to the bottom of it.

Then I drove a 4' length of 1/2" rebar into the ground until only about 1' was left exposed. Then I placed the iron pipe over the rebar and drove it into the ground until about 2' was above ground. I then connected both pieces of the conduit with the locking connector and lowered that onto the galvanized pipe and was able to push it into the ground about another foot. Then I mounted the standoff to my roof eave and attached the mast to the standoff and ran the cable down it and secured it with tie wraps.
There was already a hole drilled in the corner of the block-work for our satellite dish cables so I then took the cable in through there and went into the crawl space to fed it up through the floor into the office where the computers are. Using the two connector/adapters I attached the lightning surge protector and ran the grounding wire back out through the same entry hole to a grounding block that DirecTV had installed for the TV.

Then I connected the amplifier to the incoming cable and used the supplied adapter cable in its box plus the little adapter cable to connect to the Verizon MIFI 4510L modem. In about 10 seconds the modem reset itself and a green light came on and it showed 4 full bars of signal strength. When I went in to the MIFI’s diagnostics software and ran the modem diagnostics I could see I was on the 4G LTE signal and I had a -66 strength signal.

When I ran speed tests on both TestMy.Net and SpeedTest I got back a consistent download speed of 4.0 Mbps or better. This morning when I woke up I checked it to see what the speed was and it gave me 5.2 Mbps!!! It also gave me upload speeds of 1.0 or better.

Please forgive me for running on and on about this but truly we have finally moved into the 21st century as far as internet connections are concerned. I’ve always told people if you come to Statesville, NC you’d have to turn your clock back 25 years… Very Happy

Oh, and the 3GStore took back the Sleek and the home assessory kit and refunded me the full price without charging me a restocking fee because I bought this setup. All total I spent almost $400 on it. Pricey, yeah but it'll be worth it now that I'll be able to work from home a couple of days a week.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An inspiring story and its great to see you get a stable 4G signal. I had to wait until 2009 to even get 3G, I too know the feeling of being reborn after I got off dial up.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the club, I finally got 4G in my area last week and it's amazing! Glad to hear that the amp and antenna was able to get you a reliable signal. Enjoy Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to be wet or dry blanket here JimWWhite, as I ask will your results hold up over time?

As I had over three years of Verizon 3G experience, and now only 100 days of 4G experience and can maybe say a few things.

1. 3G and 4G reception varies each and very day. So an N of only two days is not enough to predict long term results. But in my experience with 3G v 4G, I would have to say 3G reception varied more day to day that 4G reception. And maybe on the brighter side for you, I have noted this recent heat wave has tended to slow up my 4G a bit. Then there is another question, given the fact my main reception handicap is many trees between me and my tower, I found little if any difference in 3G speeds in the summer with trees fully leafed out, and 3G speeds in the winter after the leaves fall. But I don't yet know if that will be true for 4G or not.

2. Then we must all salute Dario for putting together an equipment list that was exactly what you needed. A little pricey maybe, but still less than you will pay per year to get almost unusable 3G service. And when you amortize the cost over the years, it becomes cheaper and cheaper per year because the up front investment in equipment will keep paying benefits year after year after year.

3. But then it becomes very hard for this forum to understand why Dario was right. Because Dario changed 3 Variables all at once. Namely a very good antenna in the 9.5 omni was added. Then the antenna was mounted much higher. And then a 4G signal amp with a 3 Db gain added to the benefits. How can we separate the 3 elements to see which of the three gave our OP the best added bang for the buck? And then would that same prescription work in other areas with different signal reception handicaps?

4. OP, you posted a very excellent RSSI, but I would like to see your SINR readings.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:46 pm    Post subject: 4G...Wow...Great!! Reply with quote

It's all an elaborate plot to get us to go over our CAPS!! Just try to stay under 5GB. I dare you.***************************MS********
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Location: Near Statesville, NC USA

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:51 pm    Post subject: SINR Reading Reply with quote

According to the Modem Statistics of the MIFI 4510L my SINR is currently at 14 dB. Yesterday I saw it at 15 and this morning at 13. The Signal - LTE (RSSI) is -68 dBm. I don't know very much about the SINR other than it means Signal to Noise Ratio.

As far as the 3GStore and Dario I suggested I'd like to use the 9-1/2" Omni Directional antenna and he agreed it was an excellent choice. I mounted it on a 20' mast because that's what I bought and I didn't want to cut it off. I was tempted to make it 30' but I figured that might be too unstable in the wind.

When Verizon comes out with it I intend to get their 4G Network Extender and install it at the end of the cable coming out of the amplifier so we can get a better phone signal throughout the house. Hopefully that device will cover both 3G and 4G. As I understand it I won't have to directly connect the MIFI to it once we have it in place. We shall see...

I know three days isn't much time but believe me, 4G is wonderful! Today I worked from home for the first time and was able to get connected to all our servers via a VPN connection. I had an email flurry going on all afternoon about one of our customers down in Texas and I was able to diagnose and fix their problem from here. I spoke to my manager yesterday and he's open to me working from home one or two days a week which means I can save on a 60+ mile commute each way. I can't and I don't even want to work full time from home. I've done that and I'd miss the daily interaction with my fellow software developers.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To JimWWhite,

You are correct, SINR stands for signal noise ratio. But if you are pulling down a SINR ratio better than plus +10, it can't possibly explain why you are getting Verizon 4G speeds of only 4 or 5 Mbit/sec down.

When I, maybe gloat gloat gloat, typically get 4G Verizon speeds more in the range of 8 to 14 Mbits/sec down. And I am in no way unusual.

But still, it really misses the point because its you you and you that is the big winner. Who cares if you get a 4G speed of 4 Mbits/sec down or 40? When 250 kbits a second down at home was not enough to work at home and 4Mbits/sec is! Do the math, if you can work at home one or two days a week, saving 120 miles per day of gas, you will repay your $400 investment in almost no time.

After that, JimWWhite, just don't stand there, ENJOY.
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