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Verizon 4620L and USB Tethering from Manual

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jimnbene
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:23 pm    Post subject: Verizon 4620L and USB Tethering from Manual Reply with quote

I just picked up a 4620L from a Verizon store today (sorry 3Gstore .. I realized I needed it this weekend).

In going though the manual, there is a setting in the settings for the Router section on page 62 which says this:

"The USB tethered mode check box enables or disables the USB tethered mode feature.
•• If this is enabled (checked), this feature allows connection through MiFi 4620L in tethered mode only.
•• If this setting is disabled (un-checked), connecting a USB cable from the MiFi device to your computer will only provide power to the MiFi device. Normally, this option should be disabled."

While I have read in the manuals and the disclaimer on the Verizon website that tethering is not possible and is only for charging.

This seems to "fly in the face" of those disclaimers and statements in reviews, including your own review.

I would like to see comments from those who have tried this mode. I mean, if Novatel in thier wisdom put it in the manual, why could it be done? Connected by USB to a Cradlepoint router or some other router to give better coverage?

Yes, you would not have the hotspot feature available from the 4620L, but it seems if this works and it is tethered to a router, that is a moot point anyway.

Would anybody have tried this yet?

Jim Alexander
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To JIM A,

As an equally new owner of a Verizon 4620L at least I know what you are talking about . And while a USB tether cable is not standard equipment on a 4620L, I am assured by Verizon that I can use my previous usb teather cable off my previous Verizon MIFI 2200 modem interchangeably with the included AC powered battery charger. And I have tried that and it seemingly works with no problem without disabling WIFI mode.

As I can see that as an advantage for a road warrior, as its cheap to buy a usb capable cigarette lighter adapter to recharge the battery between various stops without eating into laptop battery charge. The alternative is a much more expensive car AC inverter that may require it being hardwired to the car battery.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had the 4620L for a little over a week and have been wanting to USB tether to a router, but I'm starting with the PC then gradually making it more "complicated." I checked the USB tethered mode option and restarted mifi, but it still works like I did nothing to it. Wifi pops up, and comp (win7 x64 fully updated, all latest gen top of the line PC hardware) doesn't recognize any USB tether from it. My iPhone and iPad USB tether perfectly. It seems, on MY device anyway, that USB tether is an option but it doesn't work. I've searched for new updates and mifi is fully updated. So, I haven't tried it to a router yet, but I doubt it would work. a typical router behind router setup works if you disable DHCP on the slave router and run a cat5e from a router port, not WAN, to both devices. This obviously has no RJ45 so USB is the only option. I think you would approach this from the "let the mifi assign all the IP addresses while the slave acts as a second wireless network and rj45s" state of mind.

Also, I downloaded the assumed latest manual from Novatel's website, the manufacturer of the device, and read the sentence or 2 it had about USB tethering. It basically said "plug it in, check this box and restart." So I'm assuming its a feature Verizon either forbid and the firmware developers included the option anyway or it just doesn't work on my device.

Other than all that, I love this thing and it does have a very powerful built in router. I only got 3 bars to my crappy PCI wifi card, across the house, but still had a 100ms and 12Mb up and 12Mb down. I want to do this so I can have hardwired connections for my gaming desktop and xbox. I'd suggest if you get any kinda of decent signal from the mifi's wifi (should be IN a window), you wont need another router unless you need RJ45s. Check your speed at speedtest.net

Also in the manual, there was an option that let you manually select which cell tower it connected to. A VERY nice feature if you want to pick the one with the best speeds. Sadly, my mifi doesn't have that option and I have no clue why, considering its fully updated.

Michael
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:25 pm    Post subject: Tethering Reply with quote

I fear that "tethering" no longer means what it once did. With the 2200 you could actually use a USB cable to communicate with the modem (like an ethernet cable with a router). All subsequent modems (4510L) would not allow this, and would even disable WIFI if the USB was plugged in to recharge. Now Novatel (and Verizon) in their great wisdom have decided (after much complaint) to allow WIFI while the USB is attached for re-charging. This is the new "tethering". It is not tethered in the same way the 2200 was. You can't communicate with the device through the USB--you still have to use WIFI. BUT....at least the modem will now be charging. I say BIG DEAL....they should go back to the functionality the 2200 had. One step forward, Two steps back.*****************************M.S.****
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Tethering Reply with quote

[quote="macsaphir"]I fear that "tethering" no longer means what it once did. With the 2200 you could actually use a USB cable to communicate with the modem (like an ethernet cable with a router). All subsequent modems (4510L) would not allow this, and would even disable WIFI if the USB was plugged in to recharge. Now Novatel (and Verizon) in their great wisdom have decided (after much complaint) to allow WIFI while the USB is attached for re-charging. This is the new "tethering". It is not tethered in the same way the 2200 was. You can't communicate with the device through the USB--you still have to use WIFI. BUT....at least the modem will now be charging. I say BIG DEAL....they should go back to the functionality the 2200 had. One step forward, Two steps back.*****************************M.S.****[/quote
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I am not sure if I can agree with macsaphir here. Even if I was a previous owner of a Verizon MIFI 2200 and now own a Verizon 4620L.

When I replaced my previous USB 720 modem with a Verizon 2200 MIFI modem I bought on the used market, I did it for only one reason. As the MIFI 2200 3G modem allowed me to save $10.00 a month on a 5GB plan and also allowed me to select a 10 GB plan depending on my variable usage. And since My MIFI 2200 only cots $20.00 on the used market, my payback point was only two months on a Verizon 5GB no contract point. Let me put in this way, I more than made up my initial investment in a used MIFI Verizon 2200 modem.

But yes but, it was nice to have a dual mode MIFI 2200, if I connected it to the USB cable it behaved exactly like any other USB modem, and if I connected it to only an AC charger or if on battery, it became up to a 5 Device router.

But as we move to 4G, I somehow have scant sympathy for having both both modes. If you want USB tethering mode in a 4G Verizon modem, just buy a Verizon 4G usb modem and maybe a external router and be done with in. The Verizon USB only 4G modem choices are not exactly lacking.

But if you want to avoid the cost of a router, the Verizon 4620 L will support up to 10 devices. If you have a wireless no capable desk top computer, and that is what is bugging you boopsie, do what I did, spend a whole $10.00 or so on a USB device to make your desktop wirelessly capable.

And when I infrequently take my 4620L modem on the road, I sure don't bother to take my desktop computer along. For that I rely on built in wireless capable laptop devices.

In short, what good does a single mode MIFI device do? Its only functional in WIFI mode.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:23 am    Post subject: Total agreement Reply with quote

"In short, what good does a single mode MIFI device do? Its only functional in WIFI mode."

Osage...why do you say you don't agree with me? I appears to me that we are in complete agreement.*************************MdMn******
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does windows install drivers when you plug in a data cable?

Thanks
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michael18284
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine tried to but failed. My problem is that even if i check the USB tethered mode, the mifi doesn't change it operation, just like i didn't check that option.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:15 pm    Post subject: Need to install drivers Reply with quote

I just got a 4620L on Friday. After reading this thread, I was able to get USB tethered mode to work. You need to install separate drivers to enable this mode. In the same tab where you check the "USB tethered mode" box, click on the link under "GPS over Wi-Fi". (I think the link is labeled "How to use this feature?") A separate window should open, and you'll see a link to the USB tethering drivers. Good luck!
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sweet thanks, that worked for me. downloaded/installed drivers, checked the "box" and and restarted mifi and computer and it works perfectly. i have about 10ms less ping over usb and still the same download as over wifi.

any clue if we can plug this into a router via usb and tether to it for hardwired connections? you'd disable dhcp on the router and let the mifi do that, and connect a usb between them. or maybe connect them via wifi somehow?

no clue if any of that could work, any thoughts?

Michael
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone post the "link" to the drivers? thanks
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For windows:
production.4620.verizon.mifiupdates.com/Windows/MiFi4620LWin.zip

For mac:
production.4620.verizon.mifiupdates.com/Mac/MiFi4620LMac.zip

It appears the GPS function only works on windows, which is nice for things like google maps and location based searches
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there other ports, ie: Status port? that gets created with the GPS port?

Also has anyone got another carrier's SIM to work with this device? I can't find the place to enter username and password for a specific APN

thanks
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about the ports, I said that about the GPS because the name of the 2 downloads were "win7:USB&GPS osx:USB." I have it checked on and when i do a google maps search, i get my location on my desktop which is usb tethered.

ah, you have to go to the ip address of the router. paste this ip address. 192.168.1.1 and you'll get your login screen. your username will either be nothing or admin and the password is on the bottom of the mifi.

there is an "unlocked" option on mine that is currently unlocked, so i'd assume you can put in another sim and it would work fine
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 4:21 pm    Post subject: HOW DO YOU CONNECT HARD WIRE DEVICE TO MIFI 4620L Reply with quote

HAS ANYONE CONNECTED HARD WIRED DEVICE SUCH AS CAMERA DVR TO MIFI4620L?
IS THERE A WAY TO USE A ROUTER WITH THE MIFI?
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