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Maureen
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:53 pm    Post subject: Verizon Novatel MiFi 4510L

The Verizon MiFi 4510L is now available. The price is $99.99 after mail-in rebate with a new Verizon 2-year service contract

Order the Verizon MiFi 4510L with Verizon service

Note: The Verizon MiFi 4510L is the SAME as the new Sprint MiFi 4082. We are working on getting an extended battery for the new 3G/4G MiFi in stock - if you'd like to be notified when the new battery is available, sign up here: MiFi 4082/4510L extended battery notification
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t6821hn
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:40 pm    Post subject:

I received the Novatel 4510L today. For the past hour and some change the unit has been working flawlessly. Setup is similar to the Samsung LC11. I had experienced annoying stalls when using the Samsung. So far the Novatel hasn't exhibited such annoyances. Of course time will tell. I'll report back later with any problems.
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t6821hn
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:56 pm    Post subject:

I received the 4510L this morning and have had about 3 hours testing the unit. Previously I was using the Pantech UML290 and Samsung Presto LC11. The latter was returned due to frequent stalls while surfing or using data connections.

The 4510L's build quality is solid which is in line with the LC11. The former is much larger than its predecessor, the MiFi 2200. I'm assuming that the battery will last under 4 hrs from a full charge. Unlike the LC11, an extended battery for the 4510L is not available for purchase. A third party vendor is working on an extended battery.

Set up of the device is easy and straight forward. Since my sim card was already activated I merely inserted the card and was online within 1 minute. The activation process will take a little longer for those who are purchasing from scratch. Device configuration, like the LC11, is done via the web. One can configure the device however you like via this portal.

The 4510L seems to get better RF than the UML290 or LC11. On the front display of the 4510L I see 3 bars of service with the battery charging. The 3 bars correspond to -78db. The db reading can be found under Advanced, Diagnostics, Modem Status.

As with the LC11 firmware updates are completed via USB connection to the device. I haven't had the opportunity to actually update a firmware but I'm sure I can figure the process out when the time arrives.

As for performance, I'm getting similar speeds as compared to the UML290. I think my area has gotten more saturated since my speeds have gone down by the day. Still fast but not quite as fast as before. Location is Orange County for reference. One key importance is the reliable signal from the Novatel 4510L, which is something I couldn't say about the Samsung LC11.

That's it for now. I'll report back should any problems arise. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:23 pm    Post subject:

I ditched the Samsung LC11 for similar reasons as t6821hn, and now have a 4510L in my possession. A couple of hours in one place is not a scientific test, but it did not exhibit the flakiness I had to endure with the Samsung.

Is there an external antenna available for this device? I see that it has a port available. I have an Arc Freedom antenna, it would be great if I could purchase an adapter.
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m_a_schuster
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 5:10 pm    Post subject: How does the "temporary" 5 user sharing work?

I've read the PDF of the manual for the 4510L and am a bit confused. It says that you need to connect to the hotspot using a web browser, open the administration pages and change the profile from "Secure" to "temporary" whereupon the SSID changes to something with "temp" in the name and the a new, temporary encryption key supporting 5 users is generated. You then LOSE access using the key you have been using up to that instant, since the profile is now changed.

Just how temporary is "temporary"? At what point does it get reset - after power off? Reset? After a certain period of time? Only when you go back as ADMIN and change the profile back to "secure"? I'm kinda confused by all this, and wonder what the value of generating a "temporary" profile is vs, just having the default profile support 5 users, and then going and changing the key by yourself if you want to stop sharing. Seems overly complicated.
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gilevans
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:39 pm    Post subject: Verizon Novatel MiFi 4510L

jcgrahs wrote:
I ditched the Samsung LC11 for similar reasons as t6821hn, and now have a 4510L in my possession. A couple of hours in one place is not a scientific test, but it did not exhibit the flakiness I had to endure with the Samsung.

Is there an external antenna available for this device? I see that it has a port available. I have an Arc Freedom antenna, it would be great if I could purchase an adapter.


I dumped the Samsung, too. Now I'm thinking it was a mistake.

The Novatel got a 4g connection for about 15 minutes then fell back to 3g and would never again get a 4g connection no matter where I was. An hour with tech support revealed that this is a known issue and that Novatel is "working on a solution." The problem is that I cannot set my Mifi to "global" connect because it will not connect to 4g. It will only connect to 4g when it's set to "LTE only," but then, of course, it won't connect to 3g if I'm not in a 4g area.

But...at least web pages didn't stall...for about 15 minutes.
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gilevans
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:52 pm    Post subject:

Update... Decided to just leave the MIFI on all day today to see what happened and...lo and behold...a green 4g light! Worked perfectly all day. I was very impressed with the performance. Fingers crossed that whatever was happening was a transient situation.
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gilevans
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:55 am    Post subject:

Ah well...my joy is short lived...back to 3g only "signal not available" for LTE "global" connection problem. Getting 4g only when I force it to "LTE only." Bummer...
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Matt
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:25 pm    Post subject:

gilevans wrote:
Ah well...my joy is short lived...back to 3g only "signal not available" for LTE "global" connection problem. Getting 4g only when I force it to "LTE only." Bummer...


If your LTE is cutting in and out on you then you may want to try out our 3G/4G Panel antenna for the MiFi to help improve your 4G reception.
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gilevans
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:40 pm    Post subject:

Nice. I'll probably buy one. Don't think it would work in my car, though.

UPDATE - I returned my 4510L and got another one at the Verizon store. Worked great out of the box, until I changed my admin password...then I lost 4g connection! I changed it back to "admin" and, wow, 4g came back.

I also had strange behavior with changing the wifi password...any change of that and my MacBook Pro would not allow me to connect. I had to use my iPhone to go into setup and change security to wep 64-bit...and then it worked. Oddly, it's worked fine with the default security level setting...until I changed the password, then...no go.

Odd.
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tsing
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:52 pm    Post subject: default password

I had the same experience with the admin password. It seems that after I was in a 3G only area for a week, this happened. When back in a known 4G area it would only connect 3G. Based on this thread I did a factory reset and left the password as admin, now I have 4G again. I did change my WiFi settings back to what I had.

Very weird issue. This device needs a firmware update!
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