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CradlePoint Firmware 3.2.1 CTR35 Success/Failure

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SlyFerret
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cradlepoint-scott wrote:
SlyFerret wrote:
I ran a speed test and saw 13mbps down, 1.5mbps up.

Without the router (at the exact same location), I usually see 15-20 down, and 5-7 up.


Have you:
  • Turned off QoS?
  • Reverted any changes you may have made with the Pantech Modem Utility?
  • Are you going over WiFi or the Ethernet port?
  • Can you post your logs?


Hi Scott,
Just got home and took some time to test a little bit.

1) I did a factory reset on the router to start clean.
2) QoS is disabled
3) UPnP is disabled
4) My modem is locked in LTE mode using the VZAccess Manager tool.

The first speedtest was done through the router via a wired ethernet connection on my desktop PC.
12.96 mbps, 2.22 up, 52 ms ping

The second speedtest was done with the card plugged directly into the PC.
23 mbps down, 1.02 up, 52ms ping

In both cases, my external antenna is in the same fixed location.

I ran numerous tests, and these readings are representative of what I'm seeing consistently.

Interestingly enough, it looks like Verizon is doing some sort of upload speed limiting. When I got the card in January, I never had an upload speed of under 5mbps with the card plugged directly into the PC. I also find it interesting that the CTR35 is actually getting 2x the upload speed, which I didn't expect.

While I'd love to see that 23 mbps downstream (I've seen as high as 29!!) through the CTR35, I really can't complain too much about 13mbps. it's still faster than many of my friends' cable modems, and WAY faster than my 3G card. Not too shabby for being out in the middle of nowhere!

-SF


See router logs below:

Wed Apr 6 20:39:59 2011|INFO|kernel|MCLGET failed
Wed Apr 6 20:39:29 2011|INFO|upnp|UPnP Not Enabled
Wed Apr 6 20:37:44 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 58:55:ca:0b:7a:63 WPA2 key negotiation completed
Wed Apr 6 20:37:43 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 58:55:ca:0b:7a:63 associated
Wed Apr 6 20:37:39 2011|INFO|dhcp|Updated DHCP lease for: HP-DM3 192.168.0.107 90:4c:e5:b5:02:87
Wed Apr 6 20:37:38 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 90:4c:e5:b5:02:87 WPA2 key negotiation completed
Wed Apr 6 20:37:37 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 90:4c:e5:b5:02:87 associated
Wed Apr 6 20:37:37 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 00:26:b0:25:ec:66 WPA2 key negotiation completed
Wed Apr 6 20:37:37 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 00:26:b0:25:ec:66 associated
Wed Apr 6 20:37:37 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 00:00:00:00:00:00 disassociated
Wed Apr 6 20:37:33 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 00:00:00:00:00:00 disassociated
Wed Apr 6 20:37:33 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 00:00:00:00:00:00 disassociated
Wed Apr 6 20:36:22 2011|INFO|dhcp|Updated DHCP lease for: Apple-TV 192.168.0.142 58:55:ca:0b:7a:63
Wed Apr 6 20:36:22 2011|INFO|dhcp|New DHCP lease handed out: Apple-TV 192.168.0.142 58:55:ca:0b:7a:63
Wed Apr 6 20:36:21 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 58:55:ca:0b:7a:63 WPA2 key negotiation completed
Wed Apr 6 20:36:20 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 58:55:ca:0b:7a:63 associated
Wed Apr 6 20:36:11 2011|INFO|dhcp|Updated DHCP lease for: Beckys-iPod 192.168.0.116 00:26:b0:25:ec:66
Wed Apr 6 20:36:11 2011|INFO|dhcp|New DHCP lease handed out: Beckys-iPod 192.168.0.116 00:26:b0:25:ec:66
Wed Apr 6 20:36:10 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 00:26:b0:25:ec:66 WPA2 key negotiation completed
Wed Apr 6 20:36:09 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 00:26:b0:25:ec:66 associated
Wed Apr 6 20:35:57 2011|INFO|dhcp|Updated DHCP lease for: HP-DM3 192.168.0.107 90:4c:e5:b5:02:87
Wed Apr 6 20:35:56 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 90:4c:e5:b5:02:87 WPA2 key negotiation completed
Wed Apr 6 20:35:55 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 90:4c:e5:b5:02:87 associated
Wed Apr 6 20:35:43 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 00:00:00:00:00:00 disassociated
Wed Apr 6 20:32:27 2011|INFO|svcmgr|No firmware upgrade found
Wed Apr 6 20:32:21 2011|INFO|svcmgr|Checking upgrade server http://www.cradlepoint.com/download/firmware-ctr35.json?mac=0030440e5954&ver=3_2_1 for newer firmware version
Wed Apr 6 20:31:49 2011|INFO|dhcp|Updated DHCP lease for: HP-DM3 192.168.0.107 90:4c:e5:b5:02:87
Wed Apr 6 20:31:49 2011|INFO|dhcp|New DHCP lease handed out: HP-DM3 192.168.0.107 90:4c:e5:b5:02:87
Wed Apr 6 20:31:48 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 90:4c:e5:b5:02:87 WPA2 key negotiation completed
Wed Apr 6 20:31:47 2011|INFO|wlan|Client 90:4c:e5:b5:02:87 associated
Wed Apr 6 20:31:35 2011|INFO|upnp|UPnP IGD Enabled
Wed Apr 6 20:31:35 2011|INFO|upnp|UPnP Enabled - verbosity 20
Wed Apr 6 20:31:32 2011|INFO|wpc|Router is not managed by WiPipe Central. Next check-in: 86400 seconds.
Wed Apr 6 20:31:32 2011|INFO|wpc|Probe Managed Status
Wed Apr 6 20:31:26 2011|INFO|svcmgr|System time set to: 18:31:26 04/06/11 UTC
Mon Apr 4 13:12:45 2011|INFO|svcmgr|Route: setting default gateway -interface 10.178.210.108
Mon Apr 4 13:12:44 2011|INFO|wanmgr|Wan Device (PANTECH UML290) is connected
Mon Apr 4 13:12:44 2011|INFO|svcmgr|Configuring ifname:cp1 with ipaddr:10.178.210.108, braddr:10.178.210.109, subnet:255.255.255.252
Mon Apr 4 13:12:31 2011|INFO|wanmgr|Wan Device (PANTECH UML290) is attempting to connect
Mon Apr 4 13:12:30 2011|INFO|wanmgr|Wan Device (PANTECH UML290) is plugged
Mon Apr 4 13:12:22 2011|INFO|wanmgr|Launching: <class 'services.wanmanager.wwan.WWanDevService'>
Mon Apr 4 13:12:22 2011|INFO|wanmgr|Launching: <class 'services.wanmanager.modemwan.ModemWanService'>
Mon Apr 4 13:12:22 2011|INFO|wanmgr|Launching: <class 'services.wanmanager.ethernetwan.WiredWanService'>
Mon Apr 4 13:12:22 2011|INFO|svcmgr|Configuring ifname:tap0 with ipaddr:192.168.0.1, braddr:None, subnet:255.255.255.0
Mon Apr 4 13:12:22 2011|INFO|kernel|bridge0: Adding tap0 as the primary bridge tap interface
Mon Apr 4 13:12:22 2011|INFO|kernel|tap0: Ethernet address f2:0b:a4:5d:ea:00
Mon Apr 4 13:12:22 2011|INFO|kernel|ucp0: probe attach (0x106c:0x3718)
Mon Apr 4 13:12:22 2011|INFO|kernel|ucp0 at uhub0 port 1
Mon Apr 4 13:12:21 2011|INFO|svcmgr|Firmware Type: RELEASE
Mon Apr 4 13:12:21 2011|INFO|svcmgr|Firmware Version: 3.2.1.3998
Mon Apr 4 13:12:21 2011|INFO|svcmgr|Firmware Build Date: 2011-04-04-11-11-25
Mon Apr 4 13:12:21 2011|CRITICAL|root|Doing factory reset for store: devstore
Mon Apr 4 13:12:20 2011|CRITICAL|root|Doing factory reset for store: config
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Toyo
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can vouch for the lower upload speeds from when LTE first rolled out. There were a couple of areas around my town that I could hit 18-22 DL and 7-11 UL speeds consistantly. Now in those areas I can't get past 4 UL speeds.
However, Verizon and others have always stated from the start of LTe that when the higher # of users get subscribed the speeds were going to drop. I firmly believe that is what is happening. The best speeds we ever saw are history in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always had really good 3G speeds. I regularly saw speeds in the 1.5-2.0mbps range, and occasionally saw up to just shy of 3mbps.

I'm in a rural area with a low population density, and I'm lucky enough to live in the center of a triangle defined by 3 VZW towers.

I'm hopeful that my speeds will stay pretty good out here, like they did with 3G.

-SF
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SlyFerret wrote:
4) My modem is locked in LTE mode using the VZAccess Manager tool.

  • First of all, thank you for the information.
  • Second, if you can do one more thing for us. As I mentioned in a previous post, we need you to NOT lock the modem into LTE mode using the VZAccess Manager tool.
    Please use the VZAccess Manager and reset the modem back to Global Mode.
    Any forcing you need to do, do it inside the Cradlepoint router after that (Internet > Modem Settings - select and configure the appropriate modem interface. Then select the appropriate LTE Connection Mode). After doing this it would be interesting to see if the numbers change.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Scott,
I'll try it tonight.

-SF
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, scratch that. I pulled the card to set it back to Global mode, but apparently I had already set it back to Global mode.

The numbers I saw above were with the card set in global mode, not locked on LTE only.

-SF
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone tried gaming with the new firmware??
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for some reason I lock the modem to 3G mode.. but connecting to CTR35 router it puts it back to auto mode and connects to 4G. Is this suppose to happen??
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruzer wrote:
for some reason I lock the modem to 3G mode.. but connecting to CTR35 router it puts it back to auto mode and connects to 4G. Is this suppose to happen??


As I stated before in this thread, please do not use the VZW Manager to lock the modem into any modes. Any forcing you need to do, do it inside the Cradlepoint router after that (Internet > Modem Settings - select and configure the appropriate modem interface. Then select the appropriate LTE Connection Mode).
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruzer wrote:
Has anyone tried gaming with the new firmware??


I'll be testing the firmware for gaming over the weekend and will have the results posted shortly. Look for an upcoming video on 3G gaming Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:11 pm    Post subject: CTR35 and Pantech UML290 performance question Reply with quote

So far in reading through other forum posts on this topic including this thread I have seen numerous comments and recommendations to not set the modem in a static 3g or 4g setting as well as to disable any QOS settings on the router.

Howerver in other posts as well as the 3gstore product advertisement page for the CTR35 it states that there can interference with cellular or wiif signal strength when the usb modem in plugged directly into the CTR35 router and therefore they suggest using a USB extension cable to move the USB modem antenna further from the router antenna.

http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/3046/63/

http://3gstore.com/product/1926_3gstorecom_26686.html


So before I invest for my ipad to use 4gLTE can anyone comment if they have tried this recommendation of the usb extension cable and if so did it actually improve preformance, throughput and signal strength as well as reliability for the cellular connection?

Last, mobile power, I see the router comes standard with ac adapter but the 3gstore states that the 3rd party battery Tekkeon MP3450i R2 Battery Pack for 3G/4G Routers can be used to power the router and modem when away from ac power source. Has anyone used this battery power supply to comment on its usefulness?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am new to the CP family and have learned/tried alot of different things in the last 2-3 weeks.
Yes, the extension cord does do a much better job of getting the signal away from the router. Do not skimp on doing this, you can get a cord for next to nothing.
I have a 3500 Pure Wave Sine inverter in my van so I do not have to deal with power issues. What is your application going to be?

I ended up swapping my 35 model for a 900 and am SO glad I did, it's like a totally different animal!

Let me know!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruzer wrote:
Has anyone tried gaming with the new firmware??


Yes, it looks like the CTR35 is now 100% good on the gaming front. I'm in the process of putting together a full gaming guide with lots of info, which should be up in a few days!

Here is the demo video I did of gaming on 3G with the CTR35 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSL46BtI2k4
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