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3Gstore
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:11 am    Post subject: Verizon provides WiFi network access to help avoid overages

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Verizon Wi-Fi Gives Mobile Broadband Customers More Ways to Connect to the Internet
Verizon Wireless Now Provides Access to Thousands of Wi-Fi Hotspots in the United States, Canada and Mexico

BASKING RIDGE, N.J., Dec. 15 -- With more and more people and businesses wanting and needing to stay connected, and more and more laptops being sold every day, Verizon Wireless today gave its customers another choice to do just that. Verizon Wireless introduced Verizon Wi-Fi, a way for Mobile Broadband customers to access thousands of Wi-Fi hotspots at no additional charge and to move easily from the nation's most reliable 3G wireless network to those hotspots.

Verizon Wi-Fi is available in locations across the United States, including airports, bookstores, coffee shops, hotels and other public locations. The service is also available at locations in Canada and Mexico, so customers can reduce data roaming charges in those countries when connected to a Verizon Wi-Fi hotspot. Customers can search for local hotspots – either by address or type of location such as a hotel or cafe – at www.verizonwireless.com/wi-fi. Search results will provide the location's address, a map and driving directions.

When within range of a Verizon Wi-Fi hotspot, customers can use VZAccess Manager to connect with a Wi-Fi-enabled notebook or netbook computer. When they are ready to move, but want to remain connected, or if they want the added security of the Verizon Wireless network, customers can simply switch back to Verizon Wireless' 3G wireless network, which is the largest and most reliable in the country. These choices can help them manage their monthly data allowance by potentially preventing overage charges and saving the allowance for when mobility is needed.

Verizon Wi-Fi allows customers to access the Internet, making it easy to browse the Web, stay on top of social networks, or complete business tasks whenever they need to be done. To take advantage of Verizon Wi-Fi, customers must have a monthly Mobile Broadband or GlobalAccess plan. They must also have a Verizon Wi-Fi supported device, including a Mobile Broadband USB modem, PC Card, ExpressCard®, Verizon Wireless MiFi™ 2200 Intelligent Mobile Hotspot, or a notebook or netbook with Mobile Broadband Built-In running Windows® 7, 2000, XP or Vista. A full list of Verizon Wi-Fi supported devices can be found at www.vzam.net.

To use Verizon Wi-Fi, customers must also have VZAccess Manager version 7.2 or higher installed on their PCs. To upgrade to VZAccess Manager 7.2, visit www.vzam.net or select "Check for Upgrades" from the Help menu of VZAccess Manager.

For more information on Verizon Wi-Fi or to search for Verizon Wi-Fi hotspots, visit www.verizonwireless.com/wi-fi
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:29 am    Post subject:

Mac OS X Users Take Note!
use of the WiFi network requires version 7.2 or later of VZAccess Manager, and right now there is only one version of that for Mac OS X users and the UMW190.

HOLD UP! i decided to see if my usb727 worked using mac os x v7 of vzam that 'appears' to be only for umw190 and it worked for both my usb727 and um175 us modems.

the read me for the installer goes on to indidate:
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Supported Devices
Kyocera KCP650/KPC680
Novatel U630/V740/V640/V620/USB720/USB727/USB760
Novatel PC770/MiFi2200/XU870
LG VX8100/VX8300/VX8350/ VX8500/VX8550/VX8560
LG VX8575/VX8600/VX8610/VX8700/VX8800/VX9100
LG VX9400/VX9700/VX9800/VX9900/10000/VX8360
Motorola Q/V3c/E815/K1m/L7c/VE/V9m/ V3m/755W/Z6c
Motorola V750/VU30/ZN4/W766/V860
Nokia 6315i/6205/7705
Pantech UM150/UM175/UMW190
RIM 9630/8530/9550
Samsung A850/A870/A930/A990/U540/U620/U640/U700
Samsung U740/U900/U940/U960/U810/U550
Sierra Wireless AC595/AC595U (Not supported on 10.6)
UTStarCom PC5740/PC5750
Verizon Wireless G'zOne Type V/G'zOne Boulder (C711)
Verizon Wireless G'zOne C731/C741 "Brigade"
Verizon Wireless CDM-8950/CDM-8975


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:14 pm    Post subject:

This seems like a Band-Aid solution for a cut to the jugular. With multimedia proliferating the internet at an unprecedented pace a 5 gigabyte cap is ludicrous to begin with and hiking out to a Verizon WiFi hotspot seems like a ridiculous way to justify the small cap size instead of implementing a real solution. It's shameful in my opinion. My apologies, I had to vent somewhere.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:10 pm    Post subject:

I agree with ed as a total newby Verizon customer.

$60.00/month is a rather high price to pay for broadband internet, and if I had any better option, Verizon would not get a penny from me.

And earth to Verizon, earth to Verizon, thanks to the advice I received on this forum, I am on a month to month 3G EVDO plan. If Verizon screws me over, Verizon will be gone. And will never get another penny from me.

As it my wife and I do not do any high band width things like music or movie stealing, but we are retirement age and both of us spend a lot of time on the internet. So I am worried about that very low 5GB cap I might exceed. If the cap was seven or eight GB, my wife and I would never exceed that. But that same 8 GB cap would still eliminate the high band width music and movie stealing folks

And there is also something absurd about charging only $12.50 per/GB for the first 5 GB, and then charging $50.00 for the next GB. Of course for totally insane, AT&T wants to charge $500.00/GB. Which explains why
AT&T did not get my EVDO 3 G dollar even though its a wash for AT&T and Verizon for signal strength.

As for me, I am 12 miles from any WIFI hotspot, but if I want wireless internet access, I can simply take my lap top to the local public library and get it for free.

As for me , I will be talking to my local State legislators, and ask them to tax any past 5GB revenues at a 100% tax rate if the people have no monopoly land line provider dsl options. I recommend everyone else do the same.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:48 am    Post subject:

Osage, while a lot of high bandwidth users are pirating music and video content as well as software all sorts of other things there is also a huge ever expanding market for legitimate high bandwidth applications as well. A lot of television stations have on demand content, companies like Netflix are streaming entire movies (one of which by itself will decimate a 5 gig cap) and online stores like Apple's incredibly popular iTunes give people instant legal access to a huge library of music. Websites like Youtube are allowing people to upload home movies and the like as well. High bandwidth usage is no longer a problem created by the technically savvy and nefarious alone any more.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:18 pm    Post subject:

I will agree that ed has a point, but we must all ask how much capacity the EVDO pipe has? Because a given cell tower has to handle the demands of cell phones, and at the same time handle the demands of computer users tacked on. If just a few want to have a monthly EVDO download capacity that exceeds 30 GB, they could do so quite easily, legally, and even show a legitimate need, but if too many people did so, it could cripple an entire cell phone net work.

And to do the type of things ed outline as a routine for the average wireless internet user, we are probably talking at least 4G or beyond. And I submit almost any service will be abused if not rationed. But the question is where to put the cap? I think we all agree 5 GB/mo. is too low, but if its set too high, there will exist a point where everyone sees their service degrade.

But in asking the question, I have somewhat exposed my own ignorance. Because in asking what strains a net work, is it the quantity of raw data exchanged or the number of connections?

Because in making this very post, at my slow typing speed, I exchange little data until I actually post, but I keep one connection open in what amounts to a very long cell phone call. Yet if I download that legal 5 GB
movie, I keep the line used perhaps as long, but exchange far more data.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:06 am    Post subject:

I have confirmed that VZW explicitly disabled this for smartphone users -- VZAccess Manager 7.2, required for the wifi connection, works with my BlackBerry 9630 (aka Tour) in order to establish a Mobile Broadband (EvDO-A) connection, but the "WiFi Locations" tab disappears after a few seconds. Thanks once again, Big Red -- NOT! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject:

As Ed pointed out this is a band-aid solution to a major wound opening,

First of all most of the Wifi Zones are in cities it does nothing for the rural folks, Verizon while trying to eliminate bandwith from their towers because they know they have oversold their service is now looking to temp solutions.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:37 pm    Post subject:

verizonrocks wrote:
Verizon while trying to eliminate bandwith from their towers because they know they have oversold their service is now looking to temp solutions.

No service is more oversold than AT&T with the i-phone dragging down their network. Apple first went to Verizon cause Verizon has the best network, but Verizon turned them down, didnt wont it overloading the network.
Thank you Verizon for keeeping your network strong and i-phone free
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:43 pm    Post subject:

Verizon may have oversold their services, but they know the cure. Get off your dead butts and transition to 4G asap.

The cell phone industry has come a long way baby, from the days when just one cell phone was all a tower could handle at one time.

And earth to Verizon, I am on a month to month contract, if you don't keep up, I can go with the first carrier that offers me a better deal.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject:

Osage wrote:
And earth to Verizon, I am on a month to month contract, if you don't keep up, I can go with the first carrier that offers me a better deal.


Earth to Osage, if you think their is another cellular provider with better towers, grid, equipment, customer support, than please leave Verizon. You are not knowledgeable enough to be a mobile broadband user.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject:

There must be other factors -- possibly some unknown "marketing strategy" -- other than 3G network capacity that come into play here. If it was strictly a capacity issue, Verizon would have offered the WiFi service to ALL of its Mobile Broadband customers. Once again, Big Red has selected to offer a new service only to a subset of its customers... Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:09 pm    Post subject:

mclass55 wrote:
Osage wrote:
And earth to Verizon, I am on a month to month contract, if you don't keep up, I can go with the first carrier that offers me a better deal.


Earth to Osage, if you think their is another cellular provider with better towers, grid, equipment, customer support, than please leave Verizon. You are not knowledgeable enough to be a mobile broadband user.

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To start out with mclass55, with all due respects I have done my homework on EVDO and am knowledgeable enough to get it going.

Its you who display your ignorance of my situation by even using the term mobile broadband when my application purpose is stationary broadband internet at a fixed location. If I had cheaper cable or dsl options, I would be using them, but in my case, my only two present choices are satellite or EVDO. And Verizon only became a choice for me on 11/18/2009 when they activated a nearby tower.

As it is I have at least three decent choices on 3 G internet access, Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T. The AT&T tower and the Verizon antennas are equidistant from me because they are mounted on the same tower only two miles from my house. The Sprint tower is 3.29 miles from my house, but because Sprint uses the higher 1900 MHZ signal, its not as suited as the Lower 850 MHZ Verizon signal for going through the mixed wood lots and open farm fields between me and their towers. And AT&T self eliminates itself from consideration because of their much higher overage fees.

But I do not know when I will get dsl capable phone lines, its possible some non cell phone wimax coverage will become available, especially since the rural broadband initiative is now starting to be funded, and 4G is that other joker in the deck.

And because I knew enough to avoid a contract, Verizon had better keep ahead of the moving competition, because I can drop Verizon without a penalty and go with the first option that offers me a better deal. At present its Verizon, in the near future, who knows? But offering me wifi access does not sweeten my Verizon deal given my situation.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:27 pm    Post subject:

Osage wrote:
mclass55 wrote:
Osage wrote:
And earth to Verizon, I am on a month to month contract, if you don't keep up, I can go with the first carrier that offers me a better deal.


Earth to Osage, if you think their is another cellular provider with better towers, grid, equipment, customer support, than please leave Verizon. You are not knowledgeable enough to be a mobile broadband user.

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Its you who display your ignorance of my situation by even using the term mobile broadband when my application purpose is stationary broadband Internet at a fixed location. .


Just remember this is "Mobile Broadband" and Verizon never and does not recommend this to be your "Home" Internet service. And its clearly spelled out to you and others what this service is and also the 5 gig limit



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:47 pm    Post subject:

To mclass55,

Your point that EVDO internet shows it best advantages in mobile applications, but at the end of the day, if major land line carriers like Verizon and ATT&T were responsible, they would have upgraded ALL their land line service to DSL capable. As it is, my only options for broadband internet is EVDO or satellite.

If I had my druthers, the FCC would require such land line carriers to provide cheaper EVDO services for those folks who do not have DSL capable lines. Which would force the land line carriers to get off their dead butts and invest in upgrading their all their land lines to DSL capable.

Meanwhile you still stubbornly miss my other point, being without a contract allows me to easily move to the first company that offers a me a better deal.
Which applies to all networks, and not just Verizon.
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