Why 3Gstore Stopped Selling Verizon - VZW Bans Competition

vpnavy · EVDO Junkie Joined: 29 Jul 2005 Posts: 169

Unfortunately, Verizon won't miss the loss sales. They have made a coporate decision - and will no longer look over sales (up or down). Whoever suggested this approach - will make darn sure it isn't revisited - period. Hopefully the 3GStore won't have a great loss by not marketing Verizon AirCards. I would imagine the profit margin is much greater for "hardware" sales (hopefully).

Michael · Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:03 am Post subject:

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n6gn · Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:58 am Post subject:

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onedavester · Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:31 pm Post subject:

The only thing I can say is that the little time I had Verizon, the 3G store's customers service, support, and working knowledge of the VZW network was far superior to Verizon itself.

VZW should have taken the 3g store as an example of how to run a business.

n6gn · Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:22 pm Post subject:

parachute · Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:35 pm Post subject: Terrific post by n6gn

n6gn wrote an eloquent viewpoint summary, concluding with:

"Any way you look at it, the Last Mile Problem is real and leads to geographic favoritism. "

I would rephrase that: the Last Mile Problem is real and 3Gstore products are the solution.

From the information presented on this forum I believe the issue is not oscillating amplifiers or overloaded cells or bandwidth constraints. The issue appears to be market share for a new product, Verizon's femtocell. Verizon is playing dirty.

If the "Verizon Wireless Network Extender" (femtocell) gave good value, Verizon would allow their product to compete fairly in the open market.

tz1 · Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:30 pm Post subject:

I don't even see how the "femtocell" would compete - unless it had one of the huge antennas and/or boosters. EVDO at the edge tends to be customized so I doubt they would have that (some need a Yagi, some just need a big antenna, some need power boost, sometimes the antenna just needs a window, sometimes a roof).

How is the femtocell going to get a signal to run at the full speed?

And I'm not going to buy a femtocell when all I need would be an antenna and/or booster and those would likely work better!

RuralRob · Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:31 pm Post subject:

Seems to me that Verizon's "femtocell" versus the products 3GStore sells is a totally apples-to-oranges comparison. They are really not in the same market at all. To use the femtocell, you must already have a solid, fast internet connection. If you have that, you probably live in an urban area that also has a good cell signal as well, at least outside your house. The femtocell just provides another way to help you get a cell signal inside a building.

The products 3GStore sells are for those of us who have NEITHER. My sole phone service AND internet service is Verizon Wireless (no other company's towers are nearby, and the quality of AT&T's phone lines around here are so appalling I canceled that service outright). But I had to put an antenna up on a 30-foot mast to get line-of-sight to the Verizon tower.

Without antennas and a booster I would have NOTHING. Even starving people in Bangladesh have better service than this area, in the supposedly-first-world USA.

onedavester · Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:03 am Post subject:

How is it possible to use a Wilson amplifier wrong? You hook it up and use it inline with an antenna. What variables are there that I am missing?

n6gn · Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:24 am Post subject:

nschwen · Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:44 pm Post subject:

n6gn’s good points taken; I think this is a pretty shortsighted decision by Verizon. These amps/antennas are available all over the place; from the web down to your local Radio Shack. Preventing a reseller of Verizon form also selling amps/antennas is really going to have little or no effect on how often they are used. Do they think that users of this forum would not continue to point fellow users to use them, be they sold here or on another site? It seems to me all this move does is cut off a reseller channel (potentially costing some sales) without significantly addressing the ‘problem’ (if you subscribe to the belief that amps/antennas are a problem).

My own experience with the 3G store and Verizon went like this. I heard about EVDO, and hit the web to learn more. I found this site, loved the information and community, and bought my first EVDO modem here, as well as the Verizon service. After receiving the product and using it for a couple months with limited effectiveness, I later purchased an antenna, and later an amp, but both from another site (3GStore didn’t carry much in that line at the time). After adding the amp, I finally had a stable connection.

The bottom line is the 3GStore made me a Verizon customer. I purchased an antenna and amp due to necessity, and would have done so if they were sold here or not. I’m sure this is true for many many other customers. To me, Verizon is making a poorly thought out decision; or they have other undisclosed reasons for not wanting 3GStore as a reseller, and are using antennas/amps as a convenient excuse.

The 3GStore has been a long time proponent of EVDO, and how to make it work well. This can be nothing but a benefit to Verizon, and a free one at that. Strange they would not see it that way.

tate886 · Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:23 pm Post subject: