Why 3Gstore Stopped Selling Verizon - VZW Bans Competition

mclass55 · EVDO User Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 82

Yes, those are mobile antennas

Maureen · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject:

paddlehead · EVDO Newbie Joined: 05 Nov 2009 Posts: 2

rjsurfer - I was so engrossed in trying to make things work, the trial period came and went before I realized it. I have to take ownership of being "stuck" with the phone, and have not yet bought any additional equipment.

everyone - It seems all of this discussion digresses from the original question: why is Verizon doing this? Though I'm NOT a big-wig executive, I've had the unpleasant experience of having to work for and with them. I've worked in big companies where the exec's literally could care less if they do a dis-service to some other company ... they ONLY care about the bean counters' bottom line for their company. I've also worked in small companies and experienced being "squished like a bug" from the big companies ... for this very reason ... the big company could care less that we happened to "be in the way".

Verizon could care less if there's people out there using this equipment. And could care less if 3GStore thrives or goes belly up. What they DO care about is their own future growth, willing to step on the backs of anyone in their path.

3GStore selling this equipment doesn't enhance the strategy of Verizon trying to puff themselves up to be the "all being master of time space and dimension" wireless provider they want to be. And so, they've determined 3GStore cannot have an affiliation. QED

Michael · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:11 pm Post subject:

mclass55,

Antennas and Amplifiers work in cars, buses, taxis, trucks, RVs and many other "mobile applications". So, the argument doesn't really hold.

We are not going to allow people to get this thread off focus, so if your interest is to hijack the thread - you will lose your posting abilities rather quickly.
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WhiteDwarf · EVDO Fledgling Joined: 04 Nov 2009 Posts: 19

This thread is not making me feel warm & fuzzy about Verizon EVDO. Unfortunately they have the closest cell tower to my house.

I would not even want EVDO if they would just extend their DSL one more mile, but being the profit mongers that they are, they will get more $$$ out of me with a service that I'm getting less & less fond of as I read more about the crap Verizon pulls on it's customers, and now a reseller.

Maureen · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject:

WhiteDwarf, just to elaborate a bit further on our feelings about Verizon - while we are obviously quite disenchanted with their dealings with us as a reseller, as USERS of mobile broadband we still feel that their mobile broadband service is valuable and works very well for many people. If you'd like some help finding a solution for mobile broadband - whether it's Verizon or otherwise - give us a call or send an email to "sales (at) 3gstore.com" and we'll be happy to help you select the best service for YOUR situation.

WhiteDwarf · EVDO Fledgling Joined: 04 Nov 2009 Posts: 19

parachute · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:17 pm Post subject: Verizon news makes me sad.

I live in the hills above the Napa Valley in Northern California. This area is on the fringe of three wireless towers: Sprint, Verizon and AT&T. It's impossible to use any of these networks without an external antenna and three watt amplifier. Stability is improved by adding a wireless router. The alternative is dialup.

I purchased three EVDO cards, wireless routers, external antennas and three watt amplifiers from 3Gstore two or three years ago. All are still working flawlessly. Without the support of 3Gstore these sales would not have taken place.

The folks at 3Gstore are knowledgeable, helpful and friendly, and when the chips are down they are always in my corner. This is a sharp contrast to my experiences in the local Verizon franchise store.

A better focus for Verizon would be adding a cell tower here and there, or boosting the signal from their present locations. Verizon would be wise to recognize that in semi-rural areas like this, 3Gstore is the best asset they could wish for.

grant · EVDO User Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 54

Something is not right here. I cannot believe that Verizon Wireless as a company would be that stupid. They sell these products, but they aren't letting you? Besides being wrong, this is completely illegal. With all the hot water that the carriers are in right now with the FCC, I would think that someone with half a brain at Verizon (once they get wind of this), will reverse this.

I purchase my data card from these guys when they were called booster-antenna.com (anyone remember that). My card wouldn't work in my home, so I purchased one of these antennas and poof, it now worked. I later purchased one of those amplifiers to help even more. If I had not purchased either, I would have canceled a long time ago.

I smell either a lawsuit or someone at Verizn figuring out they goofed and fixing this pronto.

DaveF · EVDO Newbie Joined: 07 Sep 2009 Posts: 3

I don't know why anyone is surprised when Verizon shows their greed. It's an on-going thing. As for 3G, they want the monthly fees, but they don't really want you to actually use the service. That costs them money. The 5 GB limit, and then charging fees far higher than the per MB cost of the first 5 GB is a clear message that they don't want customers to actually benefit from the service. They prefer to get the monthly fees, while providing as little as possible.

Verizon has rolled out multiple upgrades for DSL, and now FIOS, where they can make the most profit for the least investment. Now, that's business, and who can blame them. But at least in PA they negotiated a monopoly on some services in return for providing high speed services to the entire state. Problem is, while they continue to invest in densely populated areas, rural areas are getting nothing. While I consider Verizon greedy, which they are, I've got to blame the state government for agreeing to a poor deal.

Bottom line, when you deal with Verizon, watch your wallet, because they are NOT your friend.

Some may remember when NBC used explosives to cause a GM truck fuel tank to explode, when they could not get a normal collision to do the job. They were going to stand behind their story, until GM pulled their entire advertising budget from NBC. That caused NBC to straighten out their act. Perhaps a large scale boycott of a customer unfriendly 3G vendor might get some better results ????????

normalee35757 · EVDO Newbie Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 7

WOW, talk about a seriously stupid business move!

We live in an area where, in general, Verizon is great (signal wise), however there are pockets of inferior service. This is also true of the other largest competitor in our area, AT&T. We also live in a house with a metal roof and thermal windows. Without our antenna and repeater, we just would not have service.

In addition, my husband has a serious medical condition that requires us to be able to contact Dr.'s at all times. Again, without our antenna and repeater, we couldn't even leave home for any extended time. We would virtually be prisoners in our own house. With our equipment, we are able to travel, go camping, etc.

Our favorite camping/fishing spot has little VZW service (might get a signal on top of the hill, pointing west, with one foot in the air, and holding your breath while tring to connect). AT&T is somewhat better, but not at all what it should be since that is their "territory". With my antenna and repeater, my wireless card and phones work around our camper, enabling us to camp! YAY. We also have numerous AT&T users coming to visit since their signal is much better there.

VZW should be PROMOTING these devices, not discouraging them. The last few years would have been horrendous for us without this additional equipment. I am VERY disappointed in such small, mean, thinking amongst a company that tries so hard to project a progressive attitude.

Stick to your guns 3G. Your company and this forum gave me the information to enable us to be mobile and lead a "normal" life. Shame on VZW.

elizabeth_in_ca · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject:

WOW - this is unbelievable. I use my Verizon USB760 for work as I travel several times a month, and without the booster antenna and direct-connect amp I got from 3Gstore, I would not be able to use my mobile broadband service (which I pay $60/month for!) in a lot of places. There are some spots I travel to where the signal is so weak I can barely connect, but with the booster/amp connected to my aircard I'm able to get a great signal and can do my work.

Once my 2-year contract is complete, I will have paid Verizon around $1440 for their service. If I hadn't bought the booster and amp, I'd have canceled my service during my 30-day trial period, and would have paid them about $20. Seems like Verizon should be ENCOURAGING places like 3Gstore to sell this stuff, not BANNING it!