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verizonrocks
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 Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:11 pm Post subject: FCC Puts Wireless Industry Under the Microscope |
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The FCC will launch a broad investigation into the nation’s wireless companies in an effort to figure out what regulations, if any, will help citizens get faster and cheaper connections for cooler and cooler mobile devices, a newly constituted gang of five commissioners decided Thursday.
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/08/fcc-wireless-study/ |
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Jim_in_VA
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I couldn't be happier - bout time
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waynefoutz
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: FCC Puts Wireless Industry Under the Microscope |
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| verizonrocks wrote: | The FCC will launch a broad investigation into the nation’s wireless companies in an effort to figure out what regulations, if any, will help citizens get faster and cheaper connections for cooler and cooler mobile devices, a newly constituted gang of five commissioners decided Thursday.
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/08/fcc-wireless-study/ |
The last thing they need, in my opinion, is more regulations. In fact, 4g was moving along nicely until the economy tanked, now further development has pretty much stalled. Get the economy moving again, so the wireless companies can start investing in the newer stuff once again. I'm a trucker. Ten years ago internet access at any speed other than home was a pipe dream I didn't think would ever come true. In 1999 a company started running phone lines under the asphalt so we could have dial-up in our trucks. That didn't last, everytime it rained or a truck ran over the steel bases bolted to the ground, they had to send someone out to repair it. Then Wi-fi came about, a company called Truckstop.net came out and installed wi-fi to just about every telephone pole sticking out of the ground. They went out of business soon after, because they invested too much in their equipment and failed to break even. Then we got EVDO, then the promise of Clearwire or XOHM, or whatever they want to call it. The point is, in the last ten years, I've seen some incredible advancements. None of them were caused by some government agency passing regulations. It was all from companies trying to fill a need, and building off of each other's work.
Also, I've seen "universalized broadband." The whole city of Philadelphia is blanketed with free wi-fi. Ask anyone who has tried to use it. It's barely usable for anything other checking your email, and even then, you better have an hour to kill to download it all. |
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0day
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Alright.
Let me tell you guys something.
I'm a teen.
I **HATE** Download caps.
I use more than 100gb a month.
And... even if I didn't use 100gb a month.
5gb limit is too low, even for the average web user.
Average web user would probaly use 5gb in 3 hours of web surfing.
EVDO needs to be more like cable internet, and less like over-priced, over-restrictions dial-up.
No download limits. Faster speeds, and less bugs/problems.
Maybe the FCC can fix this. |
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waynefoutz
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| 0day wrote: | Alright.
Let me tell you guys something.
I'm a teen.
I **HATE** Download caps.
I use more than 100gb a month.
And... even if I didn't use 100gb a month.
5gb limit is too low, even for the average web user.
Average web user would probaly use 5gb in 3 hours of web surfing.
EVDO needs to be more like cable internet, and less like over-priced, over-restrictions dial-up.
No download limits. Faster speeds, and less bugs/problems.
Maybe the FCC can fix this. |
EVDO can't be like cable internet, the bandwidth just isn't there to support it. New technologies have to be developed. For that to happen, companies have to have money to invest in them, with the promise of making a profit. The FCC can't widen the EVDO pipe by passing regulations. |
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Todd4300
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EH
Usually when the goverment tries to "protect" us they usually end up failing causing more harm and costing us more money someplace else. |
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verizonrocks
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| Todd4300 wrote: | EH
Usually when the government tries to "protect" us they usually end up failing causing more harm and costing us more money someplace else. |
I don't think many seniors could do away with Social Security or Medicare, My parents think those are excellent programs placed by the US Government.
Remember splitting MA BELL another mandate that spurred competition, Government is not all bad. |
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vpnavy
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| waynefoutz wrote: | | EVDO can't be like cable internet, the bandwidth just isn't there to support it. New technologies have to be developed. For that to happen, companies have to have money to invest in them, with the promise of making a profit. The FCC can't widen the EVDO pipe by passing regulations. |
Look, Verizon has made a corporate decision on where and when to provide DSL. If they can't make their gigantic profit - you don't get DSL access. I would venture to say that a large majority of Wireless users are those (like myself) that can't get DSL (or Cable) because it wouldn't be profitable to upgrade the lines for a few homeowner's vs. a bunch of homeowner's. Verizon (and others) get special financial benefits from the Government for providing (what is now essential) InterNet access. So, I really don't care if it is a hardship on companies like Verizon to provide Wireless access at a greater costs that might mean they would not be able to pay their shareholders a few percentage points. That is the price of doing business.... |
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waynefoutz
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| vpnavy wrote: | | waynefoutz wrote: | | EVDO can't be like cable internet, the bandwidth just isn't there to support it. New technologies have to be developed. For that to happen, companies have to have money to invest in them, with the promise of making a profit. The FCC can't widen the EVDO pipe by passing regulations. |
Look, Verizon has made a corporate decision on where and when to provide DSL. If they can't make their gigantic profit - you don't get DSL access. I would venture to say that a large majority of Wireless users are those (like myself) that can't get DSL (or Cable) because it wouldn't be profitable to upgrade the lines for a few homeowner's vs. a bunch of homeowner's. Verizon (and others) get special financial benefits from the Government for providing (what is now essential) InterNet access. So, I really don't care if it is a hardship on companies like Verizon to provide Wireless access at a greater costs that might mean they would not be able to pay their shareholders a few percentage points. That is the price of doing business.... |
Your missing my point. When 3g (EVDO and HSDPA) first came out, us laptop and PC users pretty much had the pipe to ourselves. I was one of the first people on board. We had no caps, and none of the providers ever complained about our data usage. Heck I used to fire up streaming TV feeds and use my laptop as a television. I did this for over two years.
Then the smartphones came out. The phones got more sophisticated, and started taking bigger pieces of our pie. The bandwidth to handle all that traffic just isn't there. Fire up your laptop in a congested downtown area and you'll see what I'm talking about. Sprint capped us the exact day the Samsung Instinct came out, now they are pushing the Palm Pre which is even more sophisticated. When the 3g iPhone came out, it didn't take long for them to put their caps in place. The 3g pipe is only so wide. That's my point. A government mandate or law isn't going to make it wider. Computer user were capped so the phones would work properly. For example, AT&T isn't going to have 40 iPhones not getting 3g download speeds because some guy is up in his apartment a block away downloading movie torrents. They are primarily a phone company, not a broadband provider for home users.
I'm not saying I like the caps. They stink. But it is what it is. We had the free ride for a few years, it's just over until the next thing comes along.
When the economy was humming along nicely, Sprint and Clearwire were working on 4G. In fact, it's all ready up in a lot of towns. But, that network's growth has slowed in recent months, because it takes money to get it growing again. I don't know if you've read the economic news lately, but there ain't a lot of growth going on anywhere right now. I don't want to get into a political debate, but the private sector was handling this problem quite well on their own until the economy went south. 4G is the technology everyone is pining for, it's just a simple matter of finding someone to put up the money to get it's implementation rolling again. |
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0day
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Well. The evdo itself isn't "could" be better.
Like you said there isn't enough bandwidth....
Well.... that's only like 20% of the problem.
Not only is speed and bandwidth limited by availability, but it's also limited by Hardware limitiations.
For example.
The evdo usb modem can only support a certain amount of date flow and receive.
Soo.. to fix this.
Stop making new phones (which they don't need to make anyways)
I don't understand why people need/like phones that much.
All you do is talk to someone on it. nothing special.
So stop making expensive high tech phones, and look to improving the capacity of the internet and removing hardware and bandwidth limitations.
Problem solved. |
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waynefoutz
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| 0day wrote: | Well. The evdo itself isn't "could" be better.
Like you said there isn't enough bandwidth....
Well.... that's only like 20% of the problem.
Not only is speed and bandwidth limited by availability, but it's also limited by Hardware limitiations.
For example.
The evdo usb modem can only support a certain amount of date flow and receive.
Soo.. to fix this.
Stop making new phones (which they don't need to make anyways)
I don't understand why people need/like phones that much.
All you do is talk to someone on it. nothing special.
So stop making expensive high tech phones, and look to improving the capacity of the internet and removing hardware and bandwidth limitations.
Problem solved. |
You want the phone company to stop improving their phones. Come on man, that's silly. Of course they are going to cater to the phones first, they are after all, the phone company. You want them to punish 95% of their customers so they can cater to us 5% who are using their network for computer broadband service? Sorry man, but that's just not going to happen. |
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0day
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Internet is a huge part of society and life in general.
Phone's shouldn't that huge of a network consumption if you just talking to somebody.
Anybody would be happy with a walkie-talkie that can talk/call to multiple contacts, unless they are using the phones for purposes other than talking to people.
So yes, I believe the %5 need more network bandwidth and improvements then the phones do.
Just my opinion. |
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