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waynefoutz EVDO Junkie
Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 222
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:36 am Post subject: interesting article: 10% of internet users using 80% |
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http://gizmodo.com/382691/10-percent-of-broadband-subscribers-suck-up-80-percent-of-bandwidth-but-p2p-no-longer-to-blame
10 Percent of Broadband Subscribers Suck Up 80 Percent of Bandwidth But P2P No Longer to Blame
The most consistent rationale for ISPs to throttle p2p applications or charge by the byte is that a small minority of users drain a vastly disproportionate amount of bandwidth, like the planet-raping aliens in Independence Day. Om Malik pulls a few of these numbers out of Arbor Networks' CTO, who develops all the traffic management tools your ISP probably uses, so while there's a conflict of interest (portents of internet doom sell more stuff) they have the data. Ten percent of subscribers consume 80 percent of bandwidth, a super-leeching 0.5 percent swallow 40 percent of bandwidth, and the rest like your mom, 80 percent, sip less than 10 percent. But p2p isn't the culprit.
No, p2p is no longer the single biggest traffic whore, responsible for only 20 percent of total traffic. It's streaming video, like YouTube and Hulu, which is now 50 percent of total traffic. During peak congestion—the times when Comcast will slow you down for hitting the pipe too hard—70 percent of it is http.
Which explains Comcast's flip on network management and why it's a total smokescreen. P2P is no longer the number one leech on networks, it's streaming video across regular old http. So they don't need to throttle p2p exclusively anymore—they need to slow the whole pipe down, hence the new "protocol agnostic" scheme. But they can look good showing off how much they love p2p. It remains to be seen how much of it the FCC will eat up. |
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Markgc EVDO Heavy User
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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It's a good story. Divide and conquer.
I don't mind sensible limits but not 5 gig. |
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Sally EVDO Heavy User
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Good article...
But I still say another factor that throws the usage averages way off are the corporate employees that have an EVDO card laying in the bottom of their computer cases that they never use - or rarely use.
I've met more than a few people in hotels, airports, and on planes that have told me that they have a card but they don't use it.
So there might be 10, 20 or 30% of accounts out there that are not being used hardly at all. Just a guess.
I'm thinking of getting a second connection for at home these days.... because I do need my account and I really don't feel good about going somewhere else only to have the same limitations apply eventually. |
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Markgc EVDO Heavy User
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| What are your options at home. Right now I have the evdo and satellite. I am on the satellite tonight |
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waynefoutz EVDO Junkie
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Sally wrote: | Good article...
But I still say another factor that throws the usage averages way off are the corporate employees that have an EVDO card laying in the bottom of their computer cases that they never use - or rarely use.
I've met more than a few people in hotels, airports, and on planes that have told me that they have a card but they don't use it.
So there might be 10, 20 or 30% of accounts out there that are not being used hardly at all. Just a guess.
I'm thinking of getting a second connection for at home these days.... because I do need my account and I really don't feel good about going somewhere else only to have the same limitations apply eventually. |
My mother falls into that category. She has a home in Ohio, a second home in Florida which she may spend a week down there every other month or so. On some months she doesn't use her broadband card at all, when she does use it it's 3 or 4 hundred megabytes tops. She has a Palm Centro as well, but they won't let her tether with it. |
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Sally EVDO Heavy User
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Markgc wrote: | | What are your options at home. Right now I have the evdo and satellite. I am on the satellite tonight |
I got a virtual connection buffet here.
1) there is a company doing some sort of WiMax thingie (not pretending to be up on all of this!)...
2) then there is always a coke at my local family restaurant - $4 with decent tip and I can hang around long enough to burn 1-1.5 gigs.
3) Or... good ol' Comcast... and not hearing good things there. ...
4) Haven't checked into what the satellite folks are offering these days... don't really wanna go there.
5) and I suppose I could go get a landline phone and toy with the DSL option.. but I've been solely cellular for 5 years now.. so that sure seems like a bad step backwards to me.
6) Wonder what NetZero has been up to? Maybe to run downloads and such... even a dialup wouldn't be so bad. LOL Let 'er run all night.
And of course.. going to the other reseller or Cricket if poop hits the proverbial fan for me and my Sprint account. |
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Sally EVDO Heavy User
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| waynefoutz wrote: |
My mother falls into that category. She has a home in Ohio, a second home in Florida which she may spend a week down there every other month or so. On some months she doesn't use her broadband card at all, when she does use it it's 3 or 4 hundred megabytes tops. She has a Palm Centro as well, but they won't let her tether with it. |
If she is that kind of user, wouldn't it probably benefit her to swap up to a tether-able phone and pay for PAM feature? And just ditch the EVDO card all together? |
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jpsage EVDO Fledgling
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 11 Location: Northwest WA
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Soooooo......
I believe that this is all a power move by the media producers. They are saying "get people to stop using youtube etc. or else.... In my minds I eye I see a scenario like the Directv pvr where they will not allow you to skip commercials without seeing them; you can fast forward but you can't just skip them. It was an obvious bowing to the content providers. I believe it is the same here. People would rather see commercial free, lower fidelity content then sit through the stupid commercials. Now the content providers are telling sprint to stop people from using using youtube etc.
It doesn't mater if people don't watch sprint videos (either with the new Sanyo or old power vision), if sprint can't market the ability to do it they will not get the customers. If holywierd won't provide the content, sprint doesn't get customers. If pissing off a few evdo users is the price, so what.
Its the same for Verizon's new system--the media giants tried to stop it in the courts and now they are tying this. It will come out and they will get caught in collusion. Reminds me of the evil corporations in "Robocop"!
I really want to keep my connection and will stay under 5G!
Just my view! _________________ Retired Computer Engineer
Travel a lot. Need Wireless, since no DSL or cable at house on Whidbey Island.
Booted from Verizon EVDO for being bad boy! |
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waynefoutz EVDO Junkie
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| Sally wrote: | | waynefoutz wrote: |
My mother falls into that category. She has a home in Ohio, a second home in Florida which she may spend a week down there every other month or so. On some months she doesn't use her broadband card at all, when she does use it it's 3 or 4 hundred megabytes tops. She has a Palm Centro as well, but they won't let her tether with it. |
If she is that kind of user, wouldn't it probably benefit her to swap up to a tether-able phone and pay for PAM feature? And just ditch the EVDO card all together? |
It would, but Sprint tells her it's against their policy. I've told her about using PdaNet, but she's afraid she'll get caught. She uses maybe half a gig a month. I doubt she'll get caught, but she don't believe me. The problem is if it happens the overage charges are astronomical. |
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