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stompinround
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Joined: 14 Jun 2008
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I actually have 2 data lines, one mobile and one "stationary" at home
your estimate of average monthly data usage
line #1 - 700mb - 1.0 gb (mobile laptop)
line #2 - 20.0 gb - 25.0 gb (home/office) (6 computers, 1 playstation 3)
whether EVDO is your primary or secondary internet connection.
primary
whether you use EVDO from a fixed location, or while traveling
Both, one line for each
whether or not Cable/DSL or other 'mainstream' internet access is availabe to you
neither cable nor DSL are avialiable. only other option is Satellite whichhas too high of latency times for the applications that I use
how many people typically use the connection at any one time.
2-3, mostly Myself and my son, sometimes a guest
what kinds of activities you routinely use the connection for.
Browsing, email, gaming, audio streaming, work
how many hours a day you think your connection is 'active'.
Line 1, typicallly average 30-40 hours per week
Line 2, is always on, however usage is probably 6-10 hours everyday between the two of us
whether or not you use an EVDO router with your device.
yes at home, the other is embedded in my laptop |
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AussieDude
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Joined: 27 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:27 am Post subject: Re: Are you going to cancel Sprint EVDO because of 5GB cap? |
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| Alex wrote: |
In your post, consider including details such as:- your estimate of average monthly data usage
- whether EVDO is your primary or secondary internet connection.
- whether you use EVDO from a fixed location, or while traveling
- whether or not Cable/DSL or other 'mainstream' internet access is availabe to you
- how many people typically use the connection at any one time.
- what kinds of activities you routinely use the connection for.
- how many hours a day you think your connection is 'active'.
- whether or not you use an EVDO router with your device.
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* Primary (and only)
* Both. I frequently travel for work, but I also use it at home for personal stuff
* In my residential area yes, but with changing work sites and cities, not guaranteed
* Just myself
* Work email, general web browsing, heavy traffic stuff such as streaming music/video, skype 1-2 times a week
* 8-16 hours a day
* No router, only my laptop
This 5Gb thing was a bit of a shock to me. When I was first thinking about getting wireless broadband, I was going to Verizon, because my phone service was with them, and it would have made it easier, however, having heard about their so called unlimited being capped, I chose Sprint instead.
I have been quite happy with the service, and despite wanting an iPhone, I thought that I would stick with Sprint, and eventually even convert my voice plan from Verizon to Sprint, and iPhone not being available on CDMA, I was thinking of buying one of the newer Blackberries next year, and having everything from Sprint.
I easily go over 5Gb a month, probably kill that in less than a week. Once they go to the limit in July, I will probably ask for month to month, see how I go with limiting my usage, and probably get rid of my service with Sprint before the end of the year.
So potentially they'll have lost, from me, probably around $3000 in revenue over 2 years (assuming say $120/month for a combined voice/data plan + couple of $100 for some sort of smartphone device).
I will most likely go to AT&T as I believe that if I have some sort of data plan with them, I am able to use all their hotspots at airports/coffee shops etc, which should allow me to get my high bandwidth stuff, and I can use whatever smartphone I get from them when I am unable to use a hotspot. In addition, the GSM device/phone I get from them will probably be more portable internationally.
Its a pity, I liked Sprint's service, and I do believe that CDMA is a technically better (in my opinion) solution than the GSM networks (although as I understand it, both CDMA and GSM networks' 3G solutions are actually based on some sort of CDMA coding scheme rendering my point mute).
However, due to this sudden change because of apparently 1% or less of users, I probably will not come back to them. By the way, if only 1% of users are using more than 5Gb, I don't understand how that is overloading their networks. Does anyone have any idea what percentage of usage is actually coming from us 1%ters? Did they even think of trying to institute a peak/off-peak usage scheme? And heck, quite a few of us were willing to pay a little more than the $60 a month (me personally, up to $100/month) to keep it as unlimited. |
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AmazinglySmooth
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Joined: 17 May 2006
Posts: 57
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:02 am Post subject: |
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| I just canceled effective the 24th. I'm hoping I can activate a new line using this hardware, but just go month-to-month--I wasn't offered this option when canceling. |
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ebiz
EVDO Junkie
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Posts: 364
Location: Reno, NV
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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AmazinglySmooth, you still had time before your 30 day window expired. If Sprint notified you of the cap in your last bill, say on May 18, its notification said the effective date was in 30 days (18June). According to the excerpts of the Terms and Conditions (T&Cs) posted in this thread, you had 30 days after that effective date to cancel, which would have been 18 July (dates vary by customer's billing date).
Everyone should try to get retention to switch them to a month-to-month contract, but you have a while to make your decision.
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AmazinglySmooth
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| ebiz wrote: | AmazinglySmooth, you still had time before your 30 day window expired. If Sprint notified you of the cap in your last bill, say on May 18, its notification said the effective date was in 30 days (18June). According to the excerpts of the Terms and Conditions (T&Cs) posted in this thread, you had 30 days after that effective date to cancel, which would have been 18 July (dates vary by customer's billing date).
Everyone should try to get retention to switch them to a month-to-month contract, but you have a while to make your decision. |
I specifically asked about month-to-month, but retention wouldn't switch me. He said:
| Quote: | | Agent (Thon): "This is not going to incur any changes in the agreement as this is not going to be in contract, however, there is not a month to month on the data cards plan. We are unable to change it to reflect the month to month." |
I chose the 24th because that's my next statement date. |
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Fox McCloud
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Joined: 02 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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well, now that I know that you get charged the ETF if they terminate you...
I'll likely keep my contract until the end of the 30 days (is it 30 days from the date you receive your bill or the "bill date" listed on the bill?) then cancel my service.
I'm in a darned if you do, darned if you don't situation:
-I can cancel now and not pay the ETF, but I'll have to go back to dial-up.
-I can wait and use service, and not have to worry about being terminated because they're not not going after people until later in the year....however, by then DSL will be available at my home, and I'll have to pay the ETF to cancel and switch to that.
I'm going to really push for them canceling my contract, but letting me keep service on a month-to-month basis for the same price I currently pay....that way, if I go over and they terminate me, I don't have to pay anything....and if they don't terminate me, and DSL becomes available, I can cancel and not have to worry about paying an ETF either.
If I can't get month-to-month though, I'll just have to suffer with dial-up until this Fall. |
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Peterfield
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm confused. On the one hand, you're worried that you might get tagged as a heavy user, implying you are using greater than 5 GB per month. Then, you say you're not taking a chance and leaning toward going back to dialup. Huh?? How long is it going to take to download/upload in excess of 5 GB of data on dialup? I am not getting the logic at all. In another post, it implies that Sprint is going after the mega-heavy users, not the 10-12 GB users. I think it is better to wait and see as everything says it will be months before Sprint really gets active on throttling accounts and you'll be well into your contract by then. |
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AmazinglySmooth
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Peterfield wrote: | | I'm confused. On the one hand, you're worried that you might get tagged as a heavy user, implying you are using greater than 5 GB per month. Then, you say you're not taking a chance and leaning toward going back to dialup. Huh?? How long is it going to take to download/upload in excess of 5 GB of data on dialup? I am not getting the logic at all. In another post, it implies that Sprint is going after the mega-heavy users, not the 10-12 GB users. I think it is better to wait and see as everything says it will be months before Sprint really gets active on throttling accounts and you'll be well into your contract by then. |
The real problem with waiting is that they can stick you with the ETF whenever they want. I agree, though, dial-up has to be worse than just monitoring your usage for under 5GB. |
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ebiz
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Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Posts: 364
Location: Reno, NV
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox McCloud wrote: | | well, now that I know that you get charged the ETF if they terminate you... |
Fox, it seems premature to assume that. What is clear in the Term Commitments & Early Termination Fees paragraph of the T&Cs is that Sprint can charge the ETF if it chooses, just as it can enforce the 5 GB limit if it chooses. We really don't have a clue how strict it will be yet.
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ebiz
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| AmazinglySmooth wrote: | [...I specifically asked about month-to-month, but retention wouldn't switch me. He said: | Quote: | | Agent (Thon): "This is not going to incur any changes in the agreement as this is not going to be in contract, however, there is not a month to month on the data cards plan. We are unable to change it to reflect the month to month." |
I chose the 24th because that's my next statement date. |
AmazinglySmooth, I'm confused. Is Sprint terminating your broadband service immediately, on 24 June or is it leaving your service on, but just relieving you of the two year lock in?
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Fox McCloud
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| ebiz wrote: | | Fox McCloud wrote: | | well, now that I know that you get charged the ETF if they terminate you... |
Fox, it seems premature to assume that. What is clear in the Term Commitments & Early Termination Fees paragraph of the T&Cs is that Sprint can charge the ETF if it chooses, just as it can enforce the 5 GB limit if it chooses. We really don't have a clue how strict it will be yet. |
This may be true, but DSL is still coming in the Fall, and I'll have to cancel then anyway, which I'll most definitely have to pay the ETF then (my 2 year contract expires in March/April). |
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Jack_In_VA
EVDO Fledgling
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Idea for 3Gstore |
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| xenophon wrote: | Michael, have an idea about getting around the 5GB limit for consumers. This could become a logistical nightmare but you could essentially become an EVDO MVNO if you sub-lease cards/accounts owned by 3Gstore on a business account from Sprint's perspective. (It appears business accounts are exempt from the cap.)
You'd have to have a very solid billing process in place to pull it off and it could complicate customer support, but it could be an opportunity for growth. It would also make it easier for your customers to swap around to other/newer cards, maybe even make it easier for users to switch carriers. With the right model, you may be able to easily transition your customers into LTE and WiMAX as they come online.
You could bundle routers with cards and the user wouldn't get directly billed from the carrier, but from 3Gstore. |
Do you believe for one minute that 3G Store would participate in a Sprint scam operation? I don't think any reputable company would even consider it. |
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ebiz
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I'm not sure it would be a scam, Jack. It would be more like setting up a financial or accounting structure to take advantage of tax or accounting rules, which is done all the time. On the other hand, I cannot imagine a faster way to get a Sprint reseller relationship canceled and put a lot of customers through a hassle.
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ebiz
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox McCloud wrote: | | ...DSL is still coming in the Fall and I'll have to cancel then anyway, for which I'll most definitely have to pay the ETF then (my 2 year contract expires in March/April). |
Makes sense, Fox. We'll hate to see you go, though. Since you have 30 days after the effective day specified in your bill, you'll probably be around until some time in July or August anyway.
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AmazinglySmooth
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| ebiz wrote: | | AmazinglySmooth wrote: | [...I specifically asked about month-to-month, but retention wouldn't switch me. He said: | Quote: | | Agent (Thon): "This is not going to incur any changes in the agreement as this is not going to be in contract, however, there is not a month to month on the data cards plan. We are unable to change it to reflect the month to month." |
I chose the 24th because that's my next statement date. |
I'm confused. Is Sprint terminating your broadband service immediately, on 24 June or is it leaving your service on, but just relieving you of the two year lock in? |
They would not let me go month-to-month so I canceled. I may call up and ask again, but as it stands now service will be terminated. |
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