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D-Link to sell EVDO-capable 4-port router soon (DI-725)

 
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tprit
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:28 pm    Post subject: D-Link to sell EVDO-capable 4-port router soon (DI-725) Reply with quote

This was just announced today:

http://presslink.dlink.com/pr/?prid=241

No pricing or availability listed, but likely to be less than a Junxion box. With the appropriate power source, might work as well as (and cheaper than) a Stompbox as well.

Hard to say if it'll be available separately or only in supplier bundles, much like the KR-1 is/was rumoured to be. Where is that thing, anyway?

Interesting that D-Link is supposed to have supplied engineering help to Kyocera on the KR-1 - maybe there was a non-compete that just ran out?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks very interesting.

Specs seem similar as the Kyocera KR1. Here is the full press release:

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D-LINK® ANNOUNCES NEW WIRELESS 3G ROUTER FOR MOBILE BROADBAND ACCESS OVER HIGH SPEED CELLULAR NETWORKS

Fountain Valley, CA, August 29, 2005 — D-Link, the end to end networking solutions provider for consumers and business, today announced that the D-Link Wireless 3G Mobile Router will be added to its line of award-winning customer premise products. The D-Link Wireless 3G Mobile Router (DI-725) will offer subscribers of wireless carriers the ability to share 3G wireless broadband access at speeds up to 2.4 Mbps with Ethernet and 802.11g connected stations from anywhere a compatible 3G mobile signal is available. The D-Link Wireless 3G Mobile Router will offer both consumers and small business a way to provide wireless wide area networking (WAN) for local Ethernet and 802.11g Wi-Fi networks.

The D-Link Wireless 3G Mobile Router will come equipped with a built in Cardbus slot for the insertion of a 3G wireless notebook adapter interface for EVDO, UMTS, Flash-OFDM and HSDPA networks. The router will also feature two USB 2.0 ports, one for providing wireless broadband access when used in conjunction with a USB enabled 3G mobile cell phone and another port for optional print server functionality. The D-Link DI-725 Wireless 3G Mobile Router will include a built-in 10/100 Mbps switch to connect up to four Ethernet-enabled networking devices as well as an integrated 802.11g access point for wireless LAN support.

"Providing shared broadband network access to mobile subscribers from anywhere a cellular network reaches is a strong proposition for mobile operators," said Steven Joe, President and CEO for D-Link. "This new 3G router and its extensive feature set will be an important product for wireless carriers looking to drive additional value added service revenue."

The D-Link DI-725 Wireless 3G Mobile Router will also incorporate enhanced security features such as WPA, support for 802.1x, and NAT firewall functionality to protect your network. Parental Control features include URL Filtering and Domain Blocking to keep users on your network from accessing blocked content. The router will also include scheduling features to prevent access during unsupervised hours.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:51 pm    Post subject: It's about time.... Reply with quote

...some more companies offered these. And it's nice to see 802.11g too... I wonder what the price will be?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:58 pm    Post subject: 3G Routers Reply with quote

One thing for sure, the first company to offer an affordable EVDO to WiFi router is going to sell a TON. There is a huge demand right now. A product like this solves the connectivity problems for thin and light laptops without a pc slot and offers a solution for desktops too.

FYI, the StompBox does offer GPS and Google Map integration, which the 3G Router do not.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:59 am    Post subject: Response from D-Link about DI-725 availability Reply with quote

Got this (non-commital) response from D-Link today:

We have no ETA time or pricing yet for the DI-725. You can find this through the channel or any vendor when we finally release the unit.

Thank You,

<snip>
Channel Sales Representative
www.dlink.com

D-Link Systems
17595 Mount Herrmann St.
Fountain Valley, Ca. 92708-4160

08/30/2005 04:34 PM

To: customerservice@dlink.com
Subject DI-725 questions

Hi there...

I read with interest the press release yesterday about the new DI-725
mobile broadband-powered router. Are there plans to sell this to
consumers directly, and if so, at what approximate price point? Any
release date, whether sold only to channel partners or directly to
consumers?

Thanks in advance - it looks like a killer product!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:04 am    Post subject: Re: Response from D-Link about DI-725 availability Reply with quote

tprit wrote:
Got this (non-commital) response from D-Link today:

We have no ETA time or pricing yet for the DI-725. You can find this through the channel or any vendor when we finally release the unit.


Everyone is familiar with the terms "software" and "hardware".
What is being described here (and with many other "products" mentioned in the evdo tech) are "vaporware".

Vaporware is a software or hardware product that doesn't exist in the market place yet and may never exist. There are 2 primary purposes companies preannounce these sort of things. 1. Like any trial balloon, it is to gauge the interest in the marketplace. 2. To discourage competitors from undertaking to develop similar products by creating the false belief that the vaporware product is close to market release.

Many States (including California and New York) have successfully sued such companies under restraint of trade and deceptive marketing practices when they exhibit a pattern of such behavior.

I only bring all this up to remind people that less than 5% of all vaporware products ever actually make it to market.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The device is not illegal, it has other uses than just Verizon service, D-link did not sign any service agreement with Verizon. Infact from the basis of the service agreement I don't even see where Verizon could bring litigation against a subscriber other than the right to terminate the service.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone heard any news on a release date for this router?

I was looking to purchase either the Kyocera one or this one, but it looks like neither are out yet.

By the way: Hi, Thanks for having me.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wanted to comment on the sharing and data aspects someone mentioned a couple of posts up.

I am a power user, as is my wife. We share the connection from my Powerbook through either Airport or ethernet to her Tablet PC. Additionally, I have left the connection running for up to 26 hours at a time downloading files from Limewire and Usenet.

The end result? I estimate our total data throughput to somewhere around 100+ gigs per month. Not a peep from Verizon.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WarriorVisions wrote:
Not a peep from Verizon.


This may be true...for now. History tells us that newer services like EVDO are often not monitored, "correctly" from the provider's point of view. This happened in many markets with the initial rollout of Cable-based broadband services. People got these connections in their homes and suddenly had a whole new experience with what they could do on the Internet.

Cable companies saw their infrastructures crumble under the weight of poor forecasting and it took about two or three years for the infrastructure to catch up with current usage and begin supporting newer rollouts. In the intermediary time, many companies instituted data transfer caps to relieve some of the stress on the networks. Only in the past year or two have most cable providers come to terms with the infrastructure required to support the userbase who's steady revenue they currently enjoy.

In the world of EVDO, carriers are exactly where the cable companies were five years ago. I'm no expert but I wouldn't be surprised if one day you suddenly find your service severely limited and/or a bunch of expensive overage charges for your data account. As someone pointed out, most ToS agreements explain that when they said unlimited what they really meant was they wouldn't limit your ability to access things; not how much you could access.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In reality there isn't much cross-pollinating going on. It's really just platform leveraging. They can take all of the work and ideas from KR1 and slap it into their own unit without the need for all that pesky co-branding and the other stuff that goes along with it contractually.

It is my personal opinion that they're just trying to beef up the KR1 in a sense. From what I've read, it looks like the DI-725 will have several features the KR1 doesn't such as 802.1x authentication, a print server, and if I was a betting man (which I am for $5 blackjack tables), I would bet it shows up with a hot-swappable card slot.

The key will be the price point; do those features really make up for whatever price difference there winds up being between the two? Time will tell... Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All - My sources tell me the D-Link router is one and the same as the Kyocera. If you look at the router, on the front it says "Powered by D-Link" and on the top it says "Kyocera". My understanding is that the marketing arrangement between the two allows them both to sell the same router, though they each have a different "name" for it.

This is a commoon practice in manufacturing. Ever notice that many TV's look identical but have a different brand name? Same thing. Both companies have a strength, combined they have a new, useful product they can both sell under their own label.

In addition, they will cover different market/distribution niches. For example, D-Link has a heavy retail presence in the PC arena, Kyocera does not. However, Kyocera has Carrier relationships for businesses that D-Link lacks.

Looks like a great partnership to me. Just don't expect two different products (but you might be able to find better pricing because of this).
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 'Router' part of the Firmware is development by D-Link (thus the Powered by D-Link on the front). The 'EVDO' part of the firmware is developed by Kyocera. So, they are both working on it.

It is still unknown what will happen with D-Links version of the product, however, the KR1 looks like it is in the final stretches.
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