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xenophon EVDO Addict
Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 2001
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:25 am Post subject: |
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For the short term, WiMAX in laptops won't have a huge major advantage except for those who need more Mbps and better latency - I personally want solid VoIP performance from my laptop. The real difference WiMAX will bring down the road is that any ANY portable device can add WiMAX fairly cheaply - mp3/streaming players, cameras that instantly upload you picture to a hosting service, GPS devices that autoupdate maps and add realtime info, cars with Net devices, DVRs, gameboy/PSP, ebook readers, webcams, VoIP devices, refrigerators, or any portable device that could benefit from being on the Net. Much tougher to do with EVDO.
WiMAX is an IEEE spec so all device makers need to do is drop in the chip and not have to validate with the carriers (essentially as easy as adding WiFi to a device). Consumer product makers would have to go through a complicated/pricey development process to get it on EVDO, like the Kindle ebook reader had to go through. LTE will likely have that challenge too and many think WiMAX has a much better chance getting onto a broader range of devices. |
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xenophon EVDO Addict
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Sequans announces a lower power SD card with WiMAX. This could be a big deal as it may allow any existing device (PDA phone, camera, etc) with an SD slot to add WiMAX if the right drivers are developed.
http://www.eetimes.com/news/semi/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207801291
These are the kind of open devices that will set WiMAX apart from EVDO and LTE. The latter two simply can't do this without involving the carriers. |
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jerelabs EVDO Newbie
Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:17 am Post subject: How will contracts be handled? |
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Has anyone heard anything regarding how Sprint EVDO contracts will be handled if someone switches to Sprint WiMax?
I'm supposedly in one of the first areas to get WiMax (Washington DC), so I'd hate to get a contract only to have to cancel it in a couple of months to switch to WiMax. |
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xrayman EVDO Junkie
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 293 Location: Kansas City
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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5 GB limit on WiMax, I think not.
Comcast wants to use WiMax to stream video with. Video streams could use up many GBs of usage each day.
| Quote: | | The CEO of Comcast recently revealed the strategy behind the reasons why his company invested $1 Billion in the Sprint Clearwire JV. It turns out that the flawless delivery of Video while traveling at 50 Mph, including handoffs ultimately weighed in favour of going for a new generation technology. | http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/28249 |
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waynefoutz EVDO Junkie
Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 201
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: |
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| xrayman wrote: | 5 GB limit on WiMax, I think not.
Comcast wants to use WiMax to stream video with. Video streams could use up many GBs of usage each day.
| Quote: | | The CEO of Comcast recently revealed the strategy behind the reasons why his company invested $1 Billion in the Sprint Clearwire JV. It turns out that the flawless delivery of Video while traveling at 50 Mph, including handoffs ultimately weighed in favour of going for a new generation technology. | http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/28249 |
encouraging! |
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xrayman EVDO Junkie
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 293 Location: Kansas City
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| Apparently Sprint continues to forge ahead with XOHM plans until the new JV with Clearwire takes over. Douglas Smith, chief technical operations officer, Sprint Nextel, has named Bridgewater Systems as network access control solution vendor for Sprint's XOHM WiMAX network. "Through the capabilities of the Bridgewater solution, Sprint will be able to provide high performance network access control, and support open network access services such as over the air provisioning of devices, subscribers and on-demand service models, and lawful intercept services." http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/June2008/02/c6585.html |
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andy6432668 EVDO User
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| With Sprint's new 5gb t.o.c. what's the point of bringing out xohm when you can't use it ? |
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xenophon EVDO Addict
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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WiMAX obviously won't have a 5GB cap since they plan to use it for much broader services, including high quality video. They may have a cap, but it will likely be closer to what wired ISPs are considering. WiMAX is designed to be a data network from the ground up. EVDO is data as an afterthought on top of a voice network.
Sprint does seem to be prematurely capping EVDO. They should wait for WiMAX to be broadly available before capping EVDO.
When Sprint starts using WiMAX as a backbone to cellsites, they won't have problems supplying enough bandwidth to EVDO but they'll probably always cap EVDO to encourage WiMAX use. |
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ebiz EVDO Junkie
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 365 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| xenophon wrote: | | ...Sprint does seem to be prematurely capping EVDO. They should wait for WiMAX to be broadly available before capping EVDO... | Yeah, Xeno, but how long will that be? I have only heard of a loose roll out schedule for a very few cities. Have you seen a more detailed one?
I still think Sprint will only go after huge data users like the guy in one of these threads with 86 GB. Just don't see them canceling people for 6 or 7 GB every second or third month. Guess we'll find out soon. _________________ Vista64 & EX720 |
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xrayman EVDO Junkie
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 293 Location: Kansas City
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Sprint-Clearwire JV Promise Two-Way Internet Video
Sprint and Clearwire pledged in their FCC filing to deliver wireless Internet access to police, firefighters and schools at speeds fast enough to handle two-way video conferencing if federal regulators approve their merger.
A slow start for the new Sprint and Clearwire JV but some progress is marked by the FCC petition, which was filed Friday and made public Monday. Sprint Vice President of Government Affairs Larry Krevor said Sprint has not yet filed its antitrust petition with DOJ, but he said it will submit that confidential document in the next few days.
Sprint and Clearwire hope to close their JV deal and begin building the new wireless network by the end of the year, after they win approval from the FCC and the Justice Department. The companies said they would roll out Sprint Nextel's mobile WiMAX within 30 months if the merger is approved.
http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle+articleid_2273461~zoneid_Home~title_UPDATE-=Sprint,.html |
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xrayman EVDO Junkie
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 293 Location: Kansas City
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: |
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The New WiMAX JV Clearwire Corp. laid out its business plan and timetable during a Web cast today.
Company executives told investors the company will have 30 million customers in nine years.
Scott G. Richardson, Clearwire's Chief Strategy Officer, said the company will offer both fixed and mobile voice and data services to residential and business customers.
He also said the company will generate $17.5 billion in annual revenue by 2017.
http://sprintconnection.kansascity.com/?q=node/646 |
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waynefoutz EVDO Junkie
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| Is wimax going to be a nationwide deal or just in metropolitan areas? Will it be a viable replacement for the current 3g technologies? Is Wimax what they are planning for the analog television frequencies when they are booted off the air next February? Anyone know what the pricing on such a service might be? |
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CraigCraig EVDO Heavy User
Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 141
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| waynefoutz wrote: | | Is wimax going to be a nationwide deal or just in metropolitan areas? Will it be a viable replacement for the current 3g technologies? Is Wimax what they are planning for the analog television frequencies when they are booted off the air next February? Anyone know what the pricing on such a service might be? |
Don't hold your breath. With 30 million users (see post above yours) in 9 years for mobile and fixed users it doesn't look like it will be nationwide mobile wireless that is usable. Current 3G technologies have already been upgraded or replaced in some many other countries (I can think of 2 countries where 14.4 Mbps mobile wireless broadband is available) unfortunately the U.S. tends not to be a leader in broadband speeds be it wired or wireless. |
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ebiz EVDO Junkie
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 365 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Nortel Moves to LTE, Away from WiMax
12Jun08 By Glenn Fleishman
www.infoworld.com/article/08/06/11/Nortel_picks_LTE_over_WiMax-IDGNS_1.html?source=rss&url=http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/06/11/Nortel_picks_LTE_over_WiMax-IDGNS_1.html
Nortel was trumpeting its WiMax prowess last year, but they missed out on major contracts in the U.S., and so are shifting their focus to Long Term Evolution (LTE), the path for GSM operators (and Verizon) to fourth-generation networks. Three of the four major U.S. carriers are committed to LTE; Sprint is the lone WiMax holdout. Intel’s wireless chief made comments recently about pushing LTE and WiMax into a converged, compatible format, too. Nortel will partner with WiMax pioneer Alvarion to continue its WiMax work, but obviously is leaning on them, and putting its research and development money into LTE.
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Intel Calls for WiMax, LTE Convergence
3Jun08, By Glenn Fleishman
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7425756.stm
Intel’s sales and marketing head calls for unified WiMax, LTE for 4G: Sean Maloney has been a driving force behind WiMax, and he makes a good point. With Qualcomm-driven standards not in the running for U.S. and European cell data evolution—nor in many other parts of the world—there’s not much of a patent or single-company-owned technology debate here. Really, it’s a question about evolution and interoperability. AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon are committed to LTE; Sprint and Clearwire to WiMax. WiMax technology is available today; LTE could be in the 2010-2012 timeframe for real deployments. WiMax can push 10 to 20 Mbps or more depending on spectrum allocation and other issues; LTE is estimated to offer 50 to 100 Mbps downstream. Maloney said 80 percent of the two technologies were the same and Motorola says it will reuse 85 percent of what was developed for WiMax in its LTE design. Sounds very rational. With Intel’s backing, carriers might go for it, because it could mean having every laptop shipped already containing an LTE receiver. _________________ Vista64 & EX720
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kalen43 EVDO Heavy User
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 131
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| waynefoutz wrote: | | Is wimax going to be a nationwide deal or just in metropolitan areas? Will it be a viable replacement for the current 3g technologies? Is Wimax what they are planning for the analog television frequencies when they are booted off the air next February? Anyone know what the pricing on such a service might be? |
Well they were planning to hit like 125 million users I think was the target.
But the first issue is the formation of the new company. Once thats done they'll probably finish the roll out in DC and chicago. Then they'll hit the major metro area's and start moving out from there.
Depending on where you're actually at and how remote will figure into that 125 mil number. But either way theres a long wait before they actually startup again. |
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