PPC6800

toddwm · Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject:

The new Qualcomm chipset looks pretty comprehensive;
it will be nice to see it in action.

Windows Mobile 6 does support USB-OTG and WinCE 6
supplies some sample OTG drivers. I don't see any
USB connector on the phone. Perhaps the standard
USB sync connector is dual purpose, but I am doubtful.

The challenge (per my limited understanding) for OTG
is the power requirements. Even with the limited power
required by OTG (150 uA at 5 vdc for a peripheral
and 8mA for a OTG Host), a constant trickle of power
drain will noticably affect the battery life. I've not seen
enough shipping devices that support USB-OTG in order
for the trade-off to be worth it to HTC. Of course, mere
speculation on my part.

I would like to see someone come out with an SDIO card
that supports USB 1.1 or 2.0 Host capability.

sheureka · EVDO User Joined: 27 Aug 2006 Posts: 58

Michael · Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:14 pm Post subject:

The Mogul by HTC (PPC-6800) Just became available for us to order.

I ordered one for me Smile

Looks like they had 3800+ available in stock. I am sure they will go fast.

After I get one in, I will update the other threads on battery life, mac tethering, Bluetooth 2.0 speeds, etc.

Also, if you need to purchase one "out of contract", you can only go through Sprint. We can sell them with service. We have been the EVDO Mobile Broadband Card Experts for the last 2 years and now we are getting into the PDAs, give us some time to get up to speed.

Over the coming weeks, we will be comparing the many PDA devices.
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Michael · Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:38 am Post subject:

Hello,

Looks like the one we ordered yesterday shipped and it is arriving today. I will have a lot more info posted on this device in the coming days and weeks!

You can always check on our availability at this thread:

Mogul by HTC, PPC-6800 Availability - EVDOforums
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xenophon · EVDO Addict Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 1969

Michael, do you have a laptop with Bluetooth 2.0? Would love to hear results of tethering performance over BT2.0.

Michael · Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:53 am Post subject:

Yes, just got the PPC-6800 Smile

I have a few laptops with BT2.0, I WILL be testing tethered EVDO from the PPC6800 and report back after.
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Michael · Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:42 am Post subject:

For those waiting - it really is shipping Smile

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hanan_t · EVDO Newbie Joined: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 3

Unfortunatly UTC has failed to address this issue on the 6800 as there is no alpha keyboard available and they refuse to pay the patent that uses the alphanumeric touchscreen pad. Their new smartphone does let you do it but the 6800 is limited to numbers. I once saw a win 5 application that would capture the numeric numbers and tried to predictivly convert them to alpha and then access them in the normal contacts page. Unfortunatly it never came to market. :(

[quote="xenophon"]I'm pretty much ready to give up on PalmOS/Treo and go to a WM6 phone soon. This one looks like it has everything I want but I am concerned about getting to the contacts quickly w/out having to slideout the keyboard. It's nice on treo to just hit the first letter or two in the phone app and quickly get to who you want. Anyone know if there is a quick way on WM6 w/out opening the keyboard up? Calling from contacts is clunky on the 6700/WM5.[/quote]

mhtyler · EVDO Heavy User Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 132

I just got my 6800 yesterday. I bought it at a sprint store from a sales girl who's knowledge level was somewhat bovine in nature.

I bought the ultimate data pack so I'd have all the sprint TV channels, which I was really interested in.

Got it home and at first tried to go through it without reading the manual just to see how intuitive it might be. Its my first PDA, so I did have a bit of learning curve.

Word from the folks at the sprint shop is that the Rev A upgrade is about 6 weeks away for what that is worth.

I quickly had some memory issues from opening too many programs. Oddly, you can start a program, but hitting the close box doesn't seem to end the program, just put it in the background, so you can quickly eat up memory.

The TV was a big disappointment: there isn't any. Sprints own phone doesn't support Sprint TV! What is more, MobiTV their recommended solution also doesn't seem to currently support the 6800. Their website says yes, but when you order the nearest choice is the 6700 for 5.0 pocket PC.

Switching between wifi and 3g is a snap, and one of the really nice features out of the box, although I haven't been able to actually do anything that taxes the current Rev O speeds.

The screen size is decent, although I had to increase the font size to maximum, and its still a bit like reading a newspaper through a keyhole. I understand that goes with the PDA territory though.

The future rev A ability, bluetooth 2.0 and integrated wifi really makes me want to keep this baby, but sprint's failure to support streaming media functions is just plain dumb and hamstrings the device.

I like it, but frankly I'm on the fence about keeping it past the 30 day mark.

mark
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Bigdave · EVDO Addict Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 1068

Get a Slingbox and never worry about the TV thing again!! No monthly fees, (one time charge to purchase the unit - from around $150 to $250 depending on which model) awesome streaming experience and watch whatever you want without having to depend on the limited choice of channels the carriers offer. I've been Slingin' on the Treo 700wx, the ppc6700, and the Q and it works great even at times when you happen to wind up in a 1xrtt area.

Just my 2¢ worth. Very Happy

Can't wait to get my hands on a 6800. Everything I've read says this is device I've been looking for.

Am I correct to assume that it has Bluetooth 2.0 and A2DP? I really like using the Moto HT820 with my Q.

mhtyler · EVDO Heavy User Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 132

Slinging won't work for me. The point of me having mobile TV is that I don't have a stationary computer hooked up to the internet.

The unit does have bluetooth 2.0, but I can't comment on the other thing you mentioned....don't know what that is.

The units integrated wifi and bluetooth 2.0 for tethering is the only thing giving me pause, otherwise I'd pack it up right now.

The unit is nice, but my girlfriend has a slim LG phone that does 80 per cent of what my big PDA does, and it supports sprint TV too.

At this point I'm doing some soul searching on what I really need vs what the device does.

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mhtyler · EVDO Heavy User Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 132

I went with the LG unit. It had the biggest screen of the slim phones, and while it doesn't have some cutting edge features, it is supposed to be able to tether, albeit at a slow speed, so that at need I can get my computer online if I've no other way of doing it.

I like having options.

I suspect that MobiTV will probably provide support at some point, and I beleive that HandiTV is their product too. Its cheaper, and has fewer channels and poor feedback as far as I can tell.

I have some regrets over the 6800, and I suspect that if/when the TV issue is resolved and Rev A is out I'll have a few more pangs, but it is also possible that the 6800 may end up being best described as, "almost".

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southsanfran · EVDO User Joined: 21 Apr 2007 Posts: 55

It looks like Verizon Wireless will have the 6800 in August.

http://tinyurl.com/337dgs