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Bigdave
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| siryak wrote: | | IMO the biggest issue here is the speed test sight you all are using. I would HIGHLY recommend using testmy.net over those, because I get MUCH more accurate results especially on upload. Just make sure you use at least the 2992kb test file. |
I think testmy.net might be a tad skewed - here's my results. Let me know what you think:
| Quote: | ::.. Download Stats ..:::
Download Connection is:: 15781 Kbps about 15.8 Mbps (tested with 12160 kB)
Download Speed is:: 1926 kB/s
Tested From:: http://testmy.net/ (Server 2)
Test Time:: 2007/03/08 - 2:48pm
Bottom Line:: 275X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 0.53 sec
Tested from a 12160 kB file and took 6.312 seconds to complete
Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 1596.88 % faster than the average for host (spcsdns.net)
D-Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-YZNHAK07P
User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070219 Firefox/2.0.0.2 [!] |
Are you noticing the 15781kbps (15.8Mbps) download? Ya think that's accurate? NOT!!! But a dude can sure wish for it huh? Obviously I'm not real sold on this speed test!!
Edit: Here's a test I just ran on Speakeasy.net. These are my normal speeds:
Download Speed: 1534 kbps (191.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 104 kbps (13 KB/sec transfer rate)
By the way, the above test on testmy.net was obviously done on the 8th and duplicated many times to be sure it wasn't an aberration. |
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rickster
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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That's funny. I never seen this speed test so I tried it too and got the same type of results. 16Mbps down on my 6Mbps DSL line. Must be compression! LOL
My experience has been speakeasy and speedtest (I think under the covers they're the same?) have given me the most accurate results. |
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Michael
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Walter
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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OK, here are some Opera results:
Compared to Firefox about 1 minute later:
And seems to be pretty repeatable. Download speed almost identical. Uploads moderately faster in Opera (mid to high 200's kb/sec) and FF2 still stuck at about 200. Also an oddity is the high latency value for speedtest.net with Opera. It's repeatable but I don't believe it. I did a trace route to speedtest.net and it was consistently in the mid 100's msec.
More data, more questions... 
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siryak
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Bigdave wrote: | | siryak wrote: | | IMO the biggest issue here is the speed test sight you all are using. I would HIGHLY recommend using testmy.net over those, because I get MUCH more accurate results especially on upload. Just make sure you use at least the 2992kb test file. |
I think testmy.net might be a tad skewed - here's my results. Let me know what you think:
| Quote: | ::.. Download Stats ..:::
Download Connection is:: 15781 Kbps about 15.8 Mbps (tested with 12160 kB)
Download Speed is:: 1926 kB/s
Tested From:: http://testmy.net/ (Server 2)
Test Time:: 2007/03/08 - 2:48pm
Bottom Line:: 275X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 0.53 sec
Tested from a 12160 kB file and took 6.312 seconds to complete
Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 1596.88 % faster than the average for host (spcsdns.net)
D-Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-YZNHAK07P
User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070219 Firefox/2.0.0.2 [!] |
Are you noticing the 15781kbps (15.8Mbps) download? Ya think that's accurate? NOT!!! But a dude can sure wish for it huh? Obviously I'm not real sold on this speed test!!
Edit: Here's a test I just ran on Speakeasy.net. These are my normal speeds:
Download Speed: 1534 kbps (191.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 104 kbps (13 KB/sec transfer rate)
By the way, the above test on testmy.net was obviously done on the 8th and duplicated many times to be sure it wasn't an aberration. |
This does happen from time to time. The problem is it is testing the Sprint servers instead of your connection. One possible problem could be that you are using a proxy and it is testing the proxy. I can assure you though if you run the test correctly it IS more accurate. I have been using it for years. I have also used the flash based sites and they give me the wrong upload EVERY time. This site is always dead on for me.
Here is an upload speed test I just ran on my "up to" 256kb upload satellite connection. I watched my meter the whole time and it pretty well stayed around the speed reported.
:::.. Upload Stats ..:::
Upload Connection is:: 229 Kbps about 0.2 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)
Upload Speed is:: 28 kB/s
Tested From:: http://testmy.net/ (Server 1)
Test Time:: 2007/03/16 - 9:14pm
Bottom Line:: 4X faster than 56K 1MB Upload in 36.57 sec
Tested from a 2992 kB file and took 106.946 seconds to complete
Upload Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 86.18 % faster than the average for host (wildblue.net)
U-Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-TFVHEG7X3
User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070219 Firefox/2.0.0.2 [!]
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JoeyDee
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Location: New York
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Can you guys notice a speed difference between the browsers when just surfing? Or is the difference definately just in the speed tests? |
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Walter
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:31 am Post subject: |
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I don't really notice a difference when just browsing, but I mostly browse with Firefox anyway. Also, when browsing you are mostly doing downloads with only a little bit of uploads; most of the time at least. With download speeds being pretty much identical, it's unlikely that I would notice a difference between 200kb/sec and 600 kb/sec upload speed when just browsing.
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Walter
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rickster
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:15 am Post subject: |
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Maybe this is just an oddity of flash in FF and Opera as opposed to IE. Another thing to try is pick one of the image/storage sites (list: http://www.free-webhosts.com/free-file-hosting.php) And upload a large zip file to avoid compression and compare results. If these are on par with each other then I'm thinking the issue is with flash.
Maybe the last speed test didn't use flash? |
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Walter
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Yeah rickster, I'm starting to think the same way. That was the reasoning behind the Costco test and I still need to do a better FTP test. But thanks for the link, that's the type of site I was looking for so I could try some more file upload tests.
Oh yeah, there's one other little piece of info that goes against the Flash/Java theory. Last night after I posted and then exited FF, my bookmark synchronizer (Foxmarks) happened to ask to upload the bookmark file to their server. I let it (it takes about 15 seconds to do) and happened to watch NetMeter while it was uploading. Guess what? Capped right at 200 kb/sec.
So I'm still concerned all of this may be affecting certain real world situations.
EDIT: Oh yeah, the last speed test site did not do any graphics during the test. Just a prompt that the test was occurring, and then another prompt that it was done.
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MorenoEnNYC
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| Walter wrote: | Yeah rickster, I'm starting to think the same way. That was the reasoning behind the Costco test and I still need to do a better FTP test. But thanks for the link, that's the type of site I was looking for so I could try some more file upload tests.
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Finally! Someone experiencing the same issue that I am. I'm pulling my hair out over this!
Walter, please read my issue I recently posted - http://www.evdoforums.com/thread5228.html -
I've noticed when running speed test using IE you'll get readings that represent that of what you should be getting when using Rev A BUT they are not my actual readings. PLEASE use this site when testing this site will give you true upload/download readings - http://miranda.ctd.anl.gov:7123/
Walter you mentioned you ran a test by uploading via FTP and your upload speed capped off at around 200-230Kbps...this is the same exact reading I'm getting on 2 of the 4 laptops I own but when I plug my U720 into the larger machines I am able to FTP upload at a rate of 700-730Kbps (90-100KB/s) I truly think it's a hardware issue i.e. slower processor or front side bus...I also once owned the Merlin S620 and experienced the same exact issue so I switched to the USB U720 thinking that moving the modem further away from the laptop would help....a no go.
Note: All of my FTP test were done by sending a 5MB file to 4 different FTP servers that are connected to 7 T-1 lines bundled together.
I I've sent Novatel Wireless an email explaining the issue...as I said earlier this is an issue that wouldn't be readily recognized by the standard user who checks emails and browse the web. |
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rickster
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Maybe you might try and play around with Dr TCP http://www.dslreports.com/drtcp
Setting mtu an rwin manually. Before doing this I recommend using system restore to back up your settings (ie. take a restore point). I also would write the current values down before you begin to "play". Some have claimed that you don't need to reboot for setting changes to take affect; my experience has been otherwise and it makes the process of tweaking a tad slow.
I have doubts this is a specific hardware limitation as mentioned with FSB and slower processors; these speed are way too slow to tax any recent hardware and doesn't explain why for some scenarios speeds obtained are about what is advertised. Also most data paths in systems are symmetrical in vs out  |
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Walter
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Moreno, glad you could join this thread. Yeah, already saw your post on that other thread. I'm the one who replied to have you take a look here. Still trying to figure this one out and ultimately see if there's a setting to change somewhere that might fix it. I was pretty sure I wouldn't be the only one experiencing this.
I'll try to give the site you mention a try.
As to my FTP transfer tests, my results were somewhat inconclusive. It's quite possible my email provider is limiting throughput. That's why I still want to try an FTP transfer to my brother's computer. Haven't had a chance to work that out with him yet though.
But the Costco test seemed to show that my machines are capable of transferring the full upload rate (I never really had any doubt of this) and that Firefox can too under the right conditions. As you may have read from earlier in this thread, some FF users see the same issue I do and some don't. That's why I continue to think it's a configuration issue of some sort and that IE 7 is making a reconfiguration at runtime. If it does, it's a reconfiguration that only affects IE 7's link though, because the tests I ran before had both running at the same time. Still just a working theory at this point though. And it doesn't explain what happened with the Everest site results.
I'll keep you (and anyone else reading the thread) filled in on anything else I find.
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Walter
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OK, latest data for uploads. I found a file share site from the site that rickster recommended. I used Quicksharing.com. FF2 and IE7 both running at the same time. Uploaded two different zip files. One was the 1.00 firmware for the DIR-450 router and was 3,972 KBytes in size. The other file was the 1.01 firmware and was 4,202 KBytes in size. Results:
FF2 using 1.00 firmware zip file 3972 KB in 197 seconds = 161 kb/sec upload speed. Netmeter verified that upload speeds stayed near or under 200 kb/sec at all times with little fluctuation.
IE7 using 1.01 firmware zip file 4202 KB in 78 seconds = 420 kb/sec. Netmeter verified that upload speeds peaked at around 700 to 800 kb/sec and fluctuated significantly during the upload.
Whatever this problem is, it can affect real file transfers.
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rickster
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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I assume you tried this two or three times just to make sure not just a network fluke.
If this is consistent behavior with FF I'd try playing with MTU/RWIN either with registry editing or using DrTCP. As of right now nothing more comes to mind.
Worst case if you don't upload much ... use IE when you do large files. You know the joke about the guy who goes to the doc and says: "You know it hurts when I do this ..."  |
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