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brendanhoar
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Ah, at tethered EVDO-phone feature too. Unexpected!
Michael - as you're providing feedback, I have a suggestion for them (though I'm sure it's at least on their idea list): allow one of the 4 ethernet ports to also be a WAN port and include configurationability to failover from EVDO -> WAN port and vice versa, with the customer configuring which one has higher priority. 
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AC7880
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject: EVDO and WIFI input? |
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Michael,
I'm a newbie and still learning as I read the forums.
If I install this unit in a motorhome with an external roof top antenna, and I am not in a area with EVDO reception (no signal at all), but there is a wifi signal (such as a truckstop or campground), would the WIFI signal still come into this unit for re-broadcast and print sharing via my 2 laptops with wifi?
Thanks,
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pismo
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what is the wifi output power is it less than 100 mw so it could easily be used with a wifi amp....?
i would love to use this with evdo card,booster amp,and external antenna on the evdo side.
then also a booster amp, and external antenna on the wifi side which i already have setup in my work truck.
how does it connect on the evdo side is it allways connected..?
does it connect automatically when a internet connection is asked for..?
does it disconnect when idle...?
can you connect and disconnect through the web interface...?
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Michael
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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A few answers....
The unit will only rebroadcast EVDO or 1xRTT over WiFi. EVDO = BroadbandAccess, 1xRTT = NationalAccess. The switch is automatic depending on the area that you are in. So, if you are at a truckstop, it will only work if you are in a EVDO or 1xRTT area. If you are in a No Coverage area, then you will not get internet access.
When you plug in a card, it automatically connects
It doesn't disconnect when idle, but does go dormant (just like when you put it in your laptop)
You CAN connect / disconnect from the web interface.
I have been traveling the last 24 hours (at Las Vegas Airport right now), and I will be writing a detailed review and posting links here when complete (included will be screen shots of the web interface).
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Michael
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AC7880
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Michael,
I sure am disappointed that the production unit will not have the USB printer sharing feature. They are missing the mark on this for mobile travelers who have 2 or more laptops doing wireless (for example RV users, boaters, etc). Even in household use, printer access for 2 untethered laptops is a very nice feature.
I may now not purchase this unit as planned, since the printer wifi feature is a key requirement in my mind.
Thanks for the good info on the unit,
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coolcat
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What is the unit's power plug like? Does it have an external power brick that converts the AC to DC? I'd like to install this into my truck so the Mac mini I've built into it can use my EVDO card and I'd like to stay away from using a power inverter if possible (they cause noise in the electrical system that is very difficult to isolate from the audio system).
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Michael
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I tend to agree that the Print Sharing feature via USB was a VERY Cool feature that set the router apart and would be very useful. The 2nd USB plug is covered on the pre-production unit and there is not mention of the print sharing in the manual.
There is an external power brick:
Input 100 - 240v
50-60Hz 1.0A mac
Output +5.0v 3.0A
15W max
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coolcat
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| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Michael wrote: | There is an external power brick:
Input 100 - 240v
50-60Hz 1.0A mac
Output +5.0v 3.0A
15W max |
Thanks! The DC output happens to be EXACTLY the rating of one of the outputs on my Carnetix CNX-P1900 PSU that is providing power to my Mac mini in my truck. I'm getting really excited now! I've been wanting to get my mini on the EVDO network, but I found my hope fading since it looked like a USB EVDO modem wasn't coming anytime soon. |
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Michael
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| brendanhoar wrote: | Michael - as you're providing feedback, I have a suggestion for them (though I'm sure it's at least on their idea list): allow one of the 4 ethernet ports to also be a WAN port and include configurationability to failover from EVDO -> WAN port and vice versa, with the customer configuring which one has higher priority.
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That is a very good idea, I don't think the expensive EVDO routers provide that functionality.
BTW, the "right" people at Kyocera are following this thread, SO, if you have suggestions, ideas, etc. post them to this thread, they will be seen.
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Walter
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I have a suggestion... Get the thing into production!!!
One nice thing would be a small applet to run on any computer connected to the router that could display updated status of the modem at all times: stuff such as connection status, Broadband or National Access, and signal strength.
Oh yeah, and make the price *well* under $200. 
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brendanhoar
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| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Walter wrote: | I have a suggestion... Get the thing into production!!!
One nice thing would be a small applet to run on any computer connected to the router that could display updated status of the modem at all times: stuff such as connection status, Broadband or National Access, and signal strength.
Oh yeah, and make the price *well* under $200. |
That could definitely be provided if a) the kyocera/d-link folks have access to or have reverse-engineered the protocol for the control channel and b) they set up the right stuff in SNMP to allow it to be monitored (assuming they have room for SNMP in flash and RAM).
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brendanhoar
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| Michael wrote: | | brendanhoar wrote: | | Michael - as you're providing feedback, I have a suggestion for them (though I'm sure it's at least on their idea list): allow one of the 4 ethernet ports to also be a WAN port and include configurationability to failover from EVDO -> WAN port and vice versa, with the customer configuring which one has higher priority. |
That is a very good idea, I don't think the expensive EVDO routers provide that functionality.
BTW, the "right" people at Kyocera are following this thread, SO, if you have suggestions, ideas, etc. post them to this thread, they will be seen. |
Awesome. To expound on this, the dual-WAN router feature would be perfect for me...
My DSL line is flakey at best, but faster (on average) than EVDO. What I'd like to do is set up the EVDO connection as secondary, and have the unit automatically switch new connections over to the secondary WAN when the primary WAN connection stops responding, falls below a certain throughput or reaches a certain TCP retry error level.
In addition, open TCP connections on the secondary should remain open when the primary returns to operation, so if I had, say, an ssh session that was running over EVDO while in failover mode, it would remain active, even though new TCP connections on my network would be spawned over the primary (in my case the flakey DSL) when that connection was listed as "good" again.
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This behavior would also be the right approach for a small mobile workgroup, who would want to use higher-speed networks when available, and EVDO when not available (and 1xRTT as a last resort). Just plug port 1 of the unit into the local network and you've all got LAN speed automatically (well, up to the 802.11g or 100base-T limit of course, depending on how your workgroup connects to the unit) *and* you're not taking up a valuable EVDO slot on verizon's network that you don't need. Perhaps the "primary" connection only activates if it detects a DHCP server on port 1 that gives it an address (or finds it is able to route to certain test sites using a DHCP address assigned to port 1 or via a permanantly configured static address on port 1).
Just some more ideas for the engineers.
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AC7880
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| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:28 am Post subject: |
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For the Kyocera folks reading the thread and seeking feedback, the USB port for tethering an EVDO Phone is unimportant to me personally, but the USB print sharing is a deal breaker.
Without the print sharing feature, I'll simply network my 2 laptops together on a 620 verizon card, and buy a dedicated wifi print sharing device verus purchasing the router.
If the decision is due to price point vesus a technical decision, I believe you will lose many sales. If indeed a price point decision, then offer 2 versions; one with print share at a increased price, and one without print share at a reduced price.
Print share as a add on is worth $50 additional to me.
| Michael wrote: | I tend to agree that the Print Sharing feature via USB was a VERY Cool feature that set the router apart and would be very useful. The 2nd USB plug is covered on the pre-production unit and there is not mention of the print sharing in the manual.
There is an external power brick:
Input 100 - 240v
50-60Hz 1.0A mac
Output +5.0v 3.0A
15W max |
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Michael
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I tend to agree that using the USB port for Print Sharing is more useful than tethering a phone. Perhaps, if it is a decision based on cost, they can leave 1 USB port and have a setting in the web interface to select Phone or Print Share. I would think that MANY more people would want to use Print Sharing too.
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